what had happened if RJJ had gained these fights

[Don Johnson]

gotcha....

yeah, the unfortunate thing is, for different reasons each, we wont know... another bs thing about boxers and promoters etc not being able to get fights DONE....

thats why i hate when i hear anything about ******ass excuses when two big fighters are supposed to fight... there's always something

you can pretty much blame HBO for alot of those fights coming off, RJJ had a very lucrative multi fight deal with them.

[nachorjj]

Roy in his prime was damn near invincible, I'm pretty sure his speed, power, and athleticism would've beaten these guys. He would've had a tough night with calz and B-hop tho but, I can't see either beating a prime Roy. Nunn has a glass jaw, Benn was a 1 dimensional power puncher(don't forget he lost to Thulani Malinga, a guy Roy whitewashed).

agree with you

[MANGLER]

He woulda beaten all of em. Punchers chance for Tyson in 2004, but not much else.

[THE REED]

He woulda beaten all of em. Punchers chance for Tyson in 2004, but not much else.

A punchers chance is all anyone had on Roy... it took 50 fights and a drop from heavyweight for someone to finally do it.

[Alec900]

Hopkins 2 (2002) supermiddleweight
Toney 2 (2003) cruiserweight
tyson (2003) heavyweight
Holyfield (2004) heavyweight
Michael Nunn (1994) supermiddleweight
Nigel Benn (1995) supermiddleweight
Chris Eubank (1994) supermiddleweight
Gerald McClellan (1995) supermiddleweight
Joe Calzaghe (2001) supermiddleweight
Dariusz Michalczewski (2002) lightheavyweight

well Michalczweski was past his prime at 2002 so RJJ would've won that easily.but like 1999 could've been diffrent story.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Another "Roy was invincible" thread.......

[THE REED]

Another "Roy was invincible" thread.......

Not invincible but hard NOT to favor him over anyone in his prime, realistically...

[nachorjj]

i think roy can beat all of them but he dont fight this fighters

[Kendo]

Hopkins 2 (2002) supermiddleweight
Toney 2 (2003) cruiserweight
tyson (2003) heavyweight
Holyfield (2004) heavyweight
Michael Nunn (1994) supermiddleweight
Nigel Benn (1995) supermiddleweight
Chris Eubank (1994) supermiddleweight
Gerald McClellan (1995) supermiddleweight
Joe Calzaghe (2001) supermiddleweight
Dariusz Michalczewski (2002) lightheavyweight

He wins all these fights. I mean He beats Toney like a baby again Tyson was over it, Holyfield was over it. I dont see Calz beating a 2001 Roy bc Roy was move active. 2001 Roy smelled bloode. The toughest fight in the list is Dariusz Michalczewski and I still think Roy wins that too.

[d9rat]

Of these fight I could really only rank Hopkins II, Tyson, Holyfield, Calzaghe, Michalczewski.

Tyson v. RJJ
In the Tyson fight I think Roy would dance all over him. After a few rounds of dancing Tyson starts to get frustrated and tired and RJJ can pick him off for 12 rounds. Tyson's chance, apart from landing a big shot, would be too pressure him against the ropes but at that time I don't think Tyson had the quickness or stamina to do it apart from short bursts.
RJJ by points unless Tyson gets a lucky shot.

Holyfield v. RJJ
Holyfield has more stamina and is a bit quicker than Tyson but doesn't have the power. RJJ should still be able to dance to outpoint him BUT this would be a much tougher fight. Holyfield loves to put pressure on and if he can catch him RJJ would have a tough fight.
RJJ slightly by points due to speed and better stamina but I wouldn't put it past Holyfield to outmuscle him and grab the win.

Calzaghe v. RJJ
This is an interesting one. RJJ is faster and has more power but Calzaghe has better stamina, is a better combination boxer with excellent handspeed (RJJ could combo but rarely did it unless he outclassed his opponent or got in trouble on the ropes), and will pressure his opponent which can bother RJJ. A lot of this depends on how RJJ comes into the fight. If he wants to win and lets his hands go Calzaghe could get beat. Too often though I see RJJ fighting good opponents and just being lazy while his opponents are unwilling to engage and push him because of his speed. Calzaghe will push him which would make for a great fight and a tough call. If RJJ is lazy Calzaghe wins. If RJJ comes to fight then a lot will depend on how many rounds he wins before he starts to tire and Calzaghe's stamina takes over the fight. This fight is going to points unless RJJ knocks Calzaghe down at least a couple times.

Hopkins v. RJJ II
Watching their first fight I was surprised by two things:
1. I had never seen RJJ fight off the ropes so effectively before or since.
2. Hopkins still gave RJJ lots of trouble by pushing him to the ropes and I couldn't figure out why no one else until Tarver tried that tactic as much.
I still had RJJ winning their first fight on points but I didn't have it as the blowout that the judges in attendanec had it.
By 2002 Hopkins had gotten stronger, RJJ had lost some stamina from their first match, and I think Hopkins would have beat him on points. Hopkins improved in nearly everything from their first fight while RJJ only gained power and in many ways became a sloppier boxer. However, while I think Hopkins would win I wouldn't put it past RJJ to dig deep and outpoint him.
Hopkins on point but give RJJ a chance.

Michalczewski v. RJJ
Tigers prime was 1997-2001 and I'd rather have him fight RJJ during these years. Michalczewski had a chin, terrific stamina, and would pressure his opponent all fight long while landing precise shots and deflecting/blocking his opponents punches. He was tailor made to beat RJJ. But, RJJ would have without a doubt been the fastest opponent Michal fought when it comes to both footspeed, handspeed, and dodging. Against the ropes Tiger would have eaten RJJ alive. RJJ would have thrown but Michalvzewski could take his punches and would have connected hard with his owns. RJJ's only hope would be to score enough from range to win on points. The big question would be if RJJ's hands would have been too fast for Michalczewski to block or deflect which I don't know if they were. If they aren't Michalczewski could possibly knock him out or at the very least win on points. If RJJ's hands are too fast than it becomes a tougher one too call. Either Michalczewski can get him on the ropes enough to score a TKO or win on points or RJJ can score at range and slip the ropes enough to win on TKO.

RJJ could win all of them or lose all of them. I'd see him conceivably winning 2-4 of them. Winning all would be a bit of a stretch just as losing them all would be.