Manny has no business at 147lbs

[FanboyKiller]

Manny crossed the line into the welterweight division.


If he didn't want to face the heat, he shouldn't have went into the kitchen.

tell that to the mexicans who fall against pac

[Vasyl’s dad]

That kitchen held the ticket for money and marketable fame... I'd say it was a good crossing. Even before the fight Roach said that this was a one time thing. People choose to ignore that.

Doesn't matter what anyone says or why they said it,

he crossed the line into the welterweight division.

Now he needs to fight the welterweights and if he doesn't, hes just as chicken**** as Mayweather.

I don't care about why he went there.

[Vasyl’s dad]

tell that to the mexicans who fall against pac

ok, and your point is?


huh?

what?

oh yea,

you don't really have one.

Pac is one of my favorite fighters, but I hold him to the same standard as everyone else.

[aether]

Doesn't matter what anyone says or why they said it,

he crossed the line into the welterweight division.

Now he needs to fight the welterweights and if he doesn't, hes just as chicken**** as Mayweather.

I don't care about why he went there.

floyd has crossed 154. how come nobody saying he should fight there?

[Njord777]

Not to detract completely from Manny's win over Oscar, even though I think we all agree De la Hoya was a weight-drained zombie in that ring, but has anyone else wondered how long Oscar would've lasted against an somewhat fast, legit welterweight that same night? I mean, we know Pacquiao has carried some pop with him to the higher weights, that's his saving grace, but what if one of the real dynamite punchers had gotten in the ring that night? Even a Cotto. I think, possibly, rather than being battered Oscar might have been knocked clean unconscious RJJ style.

But anyway, yes, I completely agree. Manny is too small to compete effectively at 147, and possibly even junior welterweight to boot.

[kadyo's]

Y'all have to remember that pac said he will have at most two more fights then it will be goodbye to boxing and hello to politics. He needs to maximize his incomes in his last two fights and he will find them only in the welterweight division... at catch weights of course LOL.

[Vasyl’s dad]

floyd has crossed 154. how come nobody saying he should fight there?

I have, but I only speak for myself.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Not to detract completely from Manny's win over Oscar, even though I think we all agree De la Hoya was a weight-drained zombie in that ring, but has anyone else wondered how long Oscar would've lasted against an somewhat fast, legit welterweight that same night? I mean, we know Pacquiao has carried some pop with him to the higher weights, that's his saving grace, but what if one of the real dynamite punchers had gotten in the ring that night? Even a Cotto. I think, possibly, rather than being battered Oscar might have been knocked clean unconscious RJJ style.

But anyway, yes, I completely agree. Manny is too small to compete effectively at 147, and possibly even junior welterweight to boot.

Many people, myself included, felt that more than one of the top 5 welters would have beaten DLH when he fought Floyd. Its not secret he was a part time fighter with stamina issues. That doesn't bode well against prime, full time, hungry fighters. We seen how gassed Oscar was in that fight by the sixth round, and Floyd wasn't putting pressure on him. Cotto, Margarito and Williams would have mauled him.

[Pullcounter]

Well when Mayweather destroyed Gatti, there was no one at 140, except Hatton and Cotto but they weren't ready. Pacquiao has Bradley, Ortiz but that doesn't bring in any money. I mean, Pacquiao just beat the best Jr WW in 2, why shouldn't he move up to 147?

because he doesn't belong at 147.

He'd beat Berto and is more then capable of beating Cotto. So I can't agree with what your saying.

pac can beat berto, but not cotto if cotto is a middleweight on fight night and pac is a welterweight on fight night.

I disagree there. Almost like your counting Pacquiao out against some of the best WWs.

yes, pac has no business fighting the best WWs without some kind of leveling of the field.

If pac's not interested in fight the best of JWW, then at least he should move up or down. If he don't want the big ones, then call the small ones. There is always Vasquez, Juanma, JMM and others in the smaller division. I think that are the options.

vasquez, juanma and other small fighters have no business fighting pac.

only jmm has business w/ pac.

Well then, what else is there for Pacquiao.

fight pbf, fight jmm, retire.

We all know Pacquiao isn't gonna fight Bradley or Ortiz. Mayweather was in that same position, Pacquiao should move up and I wouldn't count him out against the best WWs.

I wouldn't count him out either, but that doesn't mean he should fight them. Pac is too small for WW.

He is more then capable of beating Cotto, Clottey and Mayweather, as for Shane...I've played that one in my head so many times, I see Pacquiao getting killed.

pac has a chance if the playing field is leveled, but he shouldn't be campaigning at 147 anyways.

I said this the other day, stop calling out welters and demanding catchweights, either go up to 147 or piss off!

The thing is Pacquiao is the one that says he's willing to fight Cotto, Mayweather or Mosley, who are legit welterweights. So if he has no business being at 147, he shouldn't be considering 147 pound fighters to fight.

true, but legit WWs shouldn't be begging pac for a fight either. that makes them look whorish.

Manny crossed the line into the welterweight division.

If he didn't want to face the heat, he shouldn't have went into the kitchen.

pac just went into the kitchen to steal a cookie, he never intended to cook a meal.

If Floyd dont get a pass neither does Pac.

uh... pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton. floyd hasn't weighed 138 lbs in 5+ years. I think pac gets a pass.

If he can fight Oscar there fight them all there.

uh... oscar came down from 154 lbs. Pac didn't move up to fight oscar at 154 lbs. If not for that fact, I would agree with you.

Doesn't matter what anyone says or why they said it,

yes, it does matter

he crossed the line into the welterweight division.

so, shane moved up to 154 and came back down 147. pwill can fight at 147 lbs if he wants to. just cause he fought at 160 lbs doesn't mean pwill has to stay at 160 lbs.

Now he needs to fight the welterweights and if he doesn't, hes just as chicken**** as Mayweather.

but people call floyd chicken****t rightfully or wrongly because floyd campaigns at WW and won't fight elite WWs. Pac campaigns at jr WW. 2 different circumstances.

I don't care about why he went there.

and that's why your opinion doesn't matter

Y'all have to remember that pac said he will have at most two more fights then it will be goodbye to boxing and hello to politics. He needs to maximize his incomes in his last two fights and he will find them only in the welterweight division... at catch weights of course LOL.

yep, 2 more fights, pbf and jmm, then retire. he doesn't need to fight cotto or mosley.

[syphillis]

Doesn't matter what anyone says or why they said it,

he crossed the line into the welterweight division.

Now he needs to fight the welterweights and if he doesn't, hes just as chicken**** as Mayweather.

I don't care about why he went there.

You missed this part, money and fame. Try and see if you can understand that.