Is JMM an ATG??? Yes or No

[ChiRock773]

Marquez won't beat Manny. If they fight at 140 he probably gets knocked out.

he already beat manny ....2x...

[fightingfigs]

anuglo > jmm

who anuglo? Is that a faster smarter non margarito like at 154 Angulo? if so he still doesnt hold a candle to Marquez. Basically ANgulo couldnt hold Marquez's jock strap

[start11]

He is a HOF for sure but an ATG i think he will be after he beats floyd...

I think for his fans JMM never loose but rather he is always robbed instead...LOL

[niceguy45]

Maybe...I consider ATG top 100 all time.

Top 50? Definently not...

I'll vote yes

agree.................

[Burner]

I wouldn't even say "the majority" thought he won. You can make a case for the second fight that JMM might have been ahead by a single point (I had Manny ahead by a single point, actually), but "beat Pacquiao twice"? That's a load of horse ****. I don't even think Floyd believes it.

"Just like a couple of weeks ago, how is a guy (Juan Manuel Marquez) gonna get knocked down three times (by Manny Pacquiao) and still win 115-110? I just don't understand that. I could see him winning by a point, but 115-110 after being knocked down three times?" ~ FMJr.

He was saying that JMM reallty won.

[Maestro USA]

JMM has a nice resume, and has never really lost a fight if you closely study his losses.

2 wins over Pacquiao
Barrera
KO'd Casamayor
KO'd J.Diaz

[MaD RoBoT]

he already beat manny ....2x...

reality check pls

[Maestro USA]

he already beat manny ....2x...

Exactly.

The added weight of Marquez would keep him on his feet. He is constantly off balance, but I don't see him hitting the canvas if they fought again.

Marquez got a taste of Pacquiao since their first fight 4 years ago. He's got all his so-called improvements figured out and would probably win the rematch 8 rounds to 4.

Roach doesn't want nothing to do with Marquez.

[Little Killer]

I wouldn't even say "the majority" thought he won. .

* Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao:

- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez

* Pacquiao wins the vacant Ring Magazine jr. lightweight world title. Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquiao but did not believe he won the fight.


If this isn't the majority then I don't know what majority is.

[Maestro USA]

* Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao:

- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez

* Pacquiao wins the vacant Ring Magazine jr. lightweight world title. Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquiao but did not believe he won the fight.


If this isn't the majority then I don't know what majority is.

Pure ownage right there!