Bute vs Froch in England?

[Taranazan]

I see this as being a carbon copy of Bute-Andrade and Froch-Taylor.

Do you think Hennesey would approve of Marlon Wright refereeing a fight in England?

So you think Froch is as effective as Andrade in the pressure department?

[Teddy Brenner]

Froch is a power-puncher who sometimes applies pressure, Andrade is pressure-fighter who sometimes punches with power. They are very similar in my eyes.

I think Bute can outbox anybody in that division though, even the recently retired Joe Calzhage.

[STEELHEAD]

I'm hearing some credible info that Bute will travel to England to fight Froch on September 5.

DO you believe this will happen?

WIll Froch get his head boxed off or KO Bute in the 12th like he did to Taylor?

are you kidding me?

bute not fighting in canada.
hey, you guys aren't going to believe me. someone back me up.
in canada, by law, two of the three judges have to be canadian.
i sht you not.
these canadians to get them to fight out of canada is as far out as the britts fighting out of u.k.

[Teddy Brenner]

are you kidding me?

bute not fighting in canada.
hey, you guys aren't going to believe me. someone back me up.
in canada, by law, two of the three judges have to be canadian.
i sht you not.
these canadians to get them to fight out of canada is as far out as the britts fighting out of u.k.

Money talks.

The stronger currency could well sway his decision.

[Taranazan]

are you kidding me?

bute not fighting in canada.
hey, you guys aren't going to believe me. someone back me up.
in canada, by law, two of the three judges have to be canadian.
i sht you not.
these canadians to get them to fight out of canada is as far out as the britts fighting out of u.k.

You don't know what you are talking about. There is no Canadien law about boxing. Every province has its own legislation. In Quebec, it is the "Régie des sports, des alcools et des jeux" who is in charge, and there is no such rules. In 4 of Bute's last 5 fights, there was 2 foreign judges (including the Andrade fight).


As for the "no canadien want to fight outside Canada". Bute, Gatti, Dorin, Lucas, Diaconu, Demers, Pascal, Gaudet, Ngoudjo, Alcine all fight out of Quebec and all fought in foreign soil.

RJJ, Tarver, Taylor, Pavlik, Paul Williams, Forrest, Mosley, De la Hoya, Mayweather never fought a single fight outside the US. Did yo ever complain about it?

So how can you say that canadiens don't want to fight outside Canada?

[Dubious-Dutch]

You don't know what you are talking about. There is no Canadien law about boxing. Every province has its own legislation. In Quebec, it is the "Régie des sports, des alcools et des jeux" who is in charge, and there is no such rules. In 4 of Bute's last 5 fights, there was 2 foreign judges (including the Andrade fight).


As for the "no canadien want to fight outside Canada". Bute, Gatti, Dorin, Lucas, Diaconu, Demers, Pascal, Gaudet, Ngoudjo, Alcine all fight out of Quebec and all fought in foreign soil.

RJJ, Tarver, Taylor, Pavlik, Paul Williams, Forrest, Mosley, De la Hoya, Mayweather never fought a single fight outside the US. Did yo ever complain about it?

So how can you say that canadiens don't want to fight outside Canada?

Why don't Americans fight outside the US?

Chad Dawson only fought in the UK once while Hopkins fought in Ecuador to obtain his belt but never returned there on vacation. Steve Cunningham fought outside the US a measly four times, twice in Poland where he received his belt, then in Germany and once in South Africa. It is quite pitiful to be honest. Winky Wright is another sad example. How can a fighter only leave his country twenty times? Sad, truly sad. Timothy Bradley only went over to obtain his belt from Witter in the UK because of Junior's sick father. The mental advantage was too much to pass up. I am sure there are more examples of American cowardess but I don't have the time to type it up.

[Silkstone]

If he fights Hopkins, he is a hypocritical ****.

I disagree. I hope he fights hopkins. I'm a huge froch fan, but i'm not an idiot..... he would lose to Hopkins, and BADLY. However, it's a fight i'd like to see, and I think that Froch's impending loss to hopkins (If the fight happens) will actually make him a better boxer.

[Taranazan]

Why don't Americans fight outside the US?

Chad Dawson only fought in the UK once while Hopkins fought in Ecuador to obtain his belt but never returned there on vacation. Steve Cunningham fought outside the US a measly four times, twice in Poland where he received his belt, then in Germany and once in South Africa. It is quite pitiful to be honest. Winky Wright is another sad example. How can a fighter only leave his country twenty times? Sad, truly sad. Timothy Bradley only went over to obtain his belt from Witter in the UK because of Junior's sick father. The mental advantage was too much to pass up. I am sure there are more examples of American cowardess but I don't have the time to type it up.

Props to them to have travelled. I just wanted to show that while so many americans complain that fighters of Canada, UK, Europe, Australia, etc. never fight outside their own country, there are plenty of US stars who have never done it either. I never complained that Jones fought only in the US. He's an american, and was the biggest draw. But don't come and complain that Bute doesn'r fight outside Canada, because in all his fights, he was the bigger draw as well. Now he has the possibility to get a unification bout, so he'll travel to get it.

I hate the fact that some american fans think that to be the best, you have to fight in the US. Judges aren't more corrupted in Canada, UK or US. A in in Canada is just as valuable than a win in the US against the same fighter.

[Dubious-Dutch]

Props to them to have travelled. I just wanted to show that while so many americans complain that fighters of Canada, UK, Europe, Australia, etc. never fight outside their own country, there are plenty of US stars who have never done it either. I never complained that Jones fought only in the US. He's an american, and was the biggest draw. But don't come and complain that Bute doesn'r fight outside Canada, because in all his fights, he was the bigger draw as well. Now he has the possibility to get a unification bout, so he'll travel to get it.

I hate the fact that some american fans think that to be the best, you have to fight in the US. Judges aren't more corrupted in Canada, UK or US. A in in Canada is just as valuable than a win in the US against the same fighter.

I never did complain about Bute, the point is there have been plenty of yanks who have traveled. I would wager a bet that you couldn't name one fighter outside of the US that fought around the world as much as Winky did. Also, the person you responded to didn't mention anything about fighting in the US so there may be a bit of insecurity showing on your part with that issue.

[Taranazan]

I never did complain about Bute, the point is there have been plenty of yanks who have traveled. I would wager a bet that you couldn't name one fighter outside of the US that fought around the world as much as Winky did. Also, the person you responded to didn't mention anything about fighting in the US so there may be a bit of insecurity showing on your part with that issue.

I know there have been alot of americans who have traveled. I never said there wasn't. I simply underlined that some of the bigger names in the game never fought outside the US, because I always hear from some american fans that "Euro bums" or Canadiens, or English fighters don't want to fight outside their country. And if I did talk about american fighters, it's because there are some american fans who think that a fighter can't be considered great if he hasn't fought in the US. Those fans always complain that foreign fighters don't want to travel to the US. So I gave some exemples of american fighters who didn't travel, to prove than they were not better (neither are they worse) than a fighter of another country who doesn't fight outside his own country.