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  • BrendanWoodside
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    #51
    Originally posted by TheGreatA
    I'm interested. I don't think performance enhancers can have that kind of effect on a boxer but extreme dehydration can, since you lack fluids which protect the brain or atleast so I have read. This makes it more likely for blood clots to develop in the brain, which is what happened in all cases.
    Block believes not only did the New York Commission make a hasty decision, but also a wrong one. "The fact remains that the whole weight of medical evidence, collected from all over the world over a period of years, shows dehydration is the single biggest cause of serious brain injury in boxing. The longer a boxer has between making weight and actually boxing the less likely he is to suffer brain damage. Those are the facts."

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    • RodBarker
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      #52
      Originally posted by elmalo28
      the weight that both fighters agree to is the official weight and thats final. i have yet to hear a fighter ever complain about how much the other fighter weighs on fight night. so lets end this b.s. already. even the king of excuses himself floyd mayweather doesnt complain about this b.s. he agreed to and fought baldy at 147 even though baldy probably weighed 200 lbs on fight night.
      Its flawed and the core of the whole debate , as pointed out fighters have been sued over this , catch weight has been going on since Jack Johnson days because of weight differences in certain match ups ,, the first thing Floyd said after ODH was this was WW beating a MW , Manny is saying Mosley and Cotto is too big wants catch weight because of it , Oscar and Trinidad said Bhop was to big , what are you talking about they dont complain , where you been

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      • RodBarker
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        #53
        Originally posted by mangler
        Hi Rod. I'll trim it down for you. I'd rather see guys fight in their own goddamn divisions. **** catchweights. If you can't go all the way up into a new division, you ain't outgrown your current one so don't bother. Now get off my nutsac old man.
        I would rather see that as well than how it is now and inside there own divisions its back to being a fair fight but when you have superstars jumping divisions it can get real messy as it is whith Floyd and Pac today , but its too easy to say *** catchweights , its to easy to say the official weight is the all and end all when its not the weight during the fight , it really is a ridicules situation that the officials could change for the better but there is too much tradition and red tape for them to stand up and fix .

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        • BattlingNelson
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          #54
          Originally posted by TheGreatA
          I'm interested. I don't think performance enhancers can have that kind of effect on a boxer but extreme dehydration can, since you lack fluids which protect the brain or atleast so I have read. This makes it more likely for blood clots to develop in the brain, which is what happened in all cases.
          Performance enhancers can make your body go longer than without it hence enabling it to take and dish out more punishment.

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          • Mayweather Jr.
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            #55
            Originally posted by raycorey
            I personally believe what fighters weigh on fight night is more significant than the day before, I dont agree with fighters weigh in at 140 a day before then 155 on fight night.

            Which one do you agree with more the fighters weight at the weigh in or the fighters weight on fight night???
            i always hoped they changed it but its been a thing in place for so long i doubt they will change it

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              #56
              Originally posted by TheGreatA
              Never heard of Joey Gamache suing Arturo Gatti for coming in at 160 lbs to a light welterweight bout?

              Gamache was brutally knocked out and is supposedly still suffering from the after-effects of that bout.
              Wasn't it also about the scale not working properly when Gatti weighed in or is my memory incorrect?

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              • Dubious-Dutch
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                #57
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Wasn't it also about the scale not working properly when Gatti weighed in or is my memory incorrect?
                Hey Bat, what do you think of the potential match up between Pavlik and Sturm?

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                • Little Killer
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by TheGreatA
                  Hopkins outweighed Pavlik by 6 lbs.



                  I don't why but I laughed at this

                  15 pounds

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                  • Mayweather Jr.
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BrendanWoodside
                    Block believes not only did the New York Commission make a hasty decision, but also a wrong one. "The fact remains that the whole weight of medical evidence, collected from all over the world over a period of years, shows dehydration is the single biggest cause of serious brain injury in boxing. The longer a boxer has between making weight and actually boxing the less likely he is to suffer brain damage. Those are the facts."
                    Originally posted by Little Killer


                    I don't why but I laughed at this

                    15 pounds
                    yea that is simply ridiculous why even have a weight in if people are just gaining so many dam pounds...

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                    • WhoreUs
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by raycorey
                      I personally believe what fighters weigh on fight night is more significant than the day before, I dont agree with fighters weigh in at 140 a day before then 155 on fight night.

                      Which one do you agree with more the fighters weight at the weigh in or the fighters weight on fight night???
                      both.

                      you have to take both into consideration.

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