Pacquiao's Adviser Says "Mosley at 144 is Too Much"

[GRUSTLER]

i beg to disagree.
how can mosley gain more glory by beating pac??
glory is his when he rematch and beats cotto and/or floyd!
pac fyt is just $$$ fyt for mosley, nothing more.

Ok, so how come Mosley is so quick to take 40% before anything
has even been solidified? That means IF/when negotiations happen
Mosley would be getting about 35%. Mosley has always been known
for making bad decisions. I'm sure a Floyd/Mosley fight would do
more than a Pac/Mosley fight anyways. Manny is not a bigger draw
than Floyd against other high profile opponents. Pac fights with
Oscar and Hatton didn't do more than Floyd's fights with them.
Pacquiao is for the glory because Shane is always saying he wants
to beat the best P4P champ because he is the best P4P Welter.

[GRUSTLER]

don't you realize that big guys are calling pac out??
so why on earth would pac go to his opponent's turf??
if pavlik wants to fyt pac, kelly should agree to pac's terms!!
try to visualize yourself in pac's shoes......u myt do worse! hehe

mosley would be very grateful if pac chooses to fyt him, at whatever terms pac demand.
bcoz no chance mayweather will fyt mosley.
besides, how do u know mosley will come drained when mosley himself is confident on his moves/decisions.
pachaters stop bitching on manny, it is mosley's desire to fyt pac.
manny hasn't decided on anything, yet people are already bitching.
manny isn't saying anything (class act), unlike mayweather who had said many things about other boxers and future bouts.

So your saying that it's OK for Manny to demand people to
come to his terms but to many it wasn't ok when Floyd did it.
Ricky Hatton wanted to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr and PBF
made him move up to 147 and people put him under fire for
that. Oscar made Floyd move up for him and people still
put him under fire. Now your totally cosigning that Pac
has all the cards and if people want to fight him then they
have to obide by that right? JMM called Floyd out and wanted
to fight & Floyd made him move up to 144 and meet him.
Pac ain't trying to fight Cotto/Mosley at 144 he want them
to come down to 142/43? Floyd Mayweather Jr has NEVER
made a fighter come in drained and out of their element.
Don't say Hatton because Hatton fought at 147 before.
I'm just pointing out the double standards here.

[jetgeomcx]

Man, we're gonna have to come up with some kind of nickname for Pac because of all these weight drain demands that he's throwing out. Pretty much what he has become, is the Welterweight Concentration Camp Leader. I know Pol Pot actually starved people to death, and Pac isn't trying to go that far. But how about a nickname like Pac Pot.

man, shame on big fyters looking down manny's way.
them all wants to fyt manny, WHY?!?!
and they are picking on midget manny. WHY?!?!
kudos, all praise to manny for facing the big fyters who want to whooop his ass.
shame on them WW's for picking on lightwts like manny and marquez. SHAME ON THEM!!

[Ray*]

Ok, so how come Mosley is so quick to take 40% before anything
has even been solidified? That means IF/when negotiations happen
Mosley would be getting about 35%. Mosley has always been known
for making bad decisions. I'm sure a Floyd/Mosley fight would do
more than a Pac/Mosley fight anyways. Manny is not a bigger draw
than Floyd against other high profile opponents. Pac fights with
Oscar and Hatton didn't do more than Floyd's fights with them.
Pacquiao is for the glory because Shane is always saying he wants
to beat the best P4P champ because he is the best P4P Welter.

TBH Mosley would be lucky enough to end up with 30% after going public about himself willing to accept 40%.

[jetgeomcx]

Ok, so how come Mosley is so quick to take 40% before anything
has even been solidified? That means IF/when negotiations happen
Mosley would be getting about 35%. Mosley has always been known
for making bad decisions. I'm sure a Floyd/Mosley fight would do
more than a Pac/Mosley fight anyways. Manny is not a bigger draw
than Floyd against other high profile opponents. Pac fights with
Oscar and Hatton didn't do more than Floyd's fights with them.
Pacquiao is for the glory because Shane is always saying he wants
to beat the best P4P champ because he is the best P4P Welter.

- mosley knows he wont get 40% with floyd.
- manny today is the metter draw than floyd. care to bet 2k and guess the may-jmm ppv# ?
- beating the current p4p champ doesn't automatically bring more glory to the best WW...like when the p4p champ is a LW...just to exagerate to drive my point.

[RodBarker]

- mosley knows he wont get 40% with floyd.
- manny today is the metter draw than floyd. care to bet 2k and guess the may-jmm ppv# ?
- beating the current p4p champ doesn't automatically bring more glory to the best WW...like when the p4p champ is a LW...just to exagerate to drive my point.

What fight did Manny outdraw Floyd in ,,, I will take your bet that Floyd JMM outsells Manny vs JMM , you want the bet ?

[jetgeomcx]

So your saying that it's OK for Manny to demand people to
come to his terms but to many it wasn't ok when Floyd did it.
Ricky Hatton wanted to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr and PBF
made him move up to 147 and people put him under fire for
that. Oscar made Floyd move up for him and people still
put him under fire. Now your totally cosigning that Pac
has all the cards and if people want to fight him then they
have to obide by that right? JMM called Floyd out and wanted
to fight & Floyd made him move up to 144 and meet him.
Pac ain't trying to fight Cotto/Mosley at 144 he want them
to come down to 142/43? Floyd Mayweather Jr has NEVER
made a fighter come in drained and out of their element.
Don't say Hatton because Hatton fought at 147 before.
I'm just pointing out the double standards here.

- my opinion on both manny's and floyd's exercise of their ryt to dictate the terms on people who call them out are the same...i agree on both counts!
- i dont think people put floyd under fire when he moved up to fyt oscar, it was a plus for him.
- pac never said he wants cotto/mosley @ 142/143..they are just speculations from manny's team. notice how freddie is not saying anything anymore lately?
- i have no problem with the floyd-ricky fyt, it was fair and square from all angles.

[GRUSTLER]

- mosley knows he wont get 40% with floyd.
- manny today is the metter draw than floyd. care to bet 2k and guess the may-jmm ppv# ?
- beating the current p4p champ doesn't automatically bring more glory to the best WW...like when the p4p champ is a LW...just to exagerate to drive my point.

I bet you Floyd/JMM PPV#'s will do more than Pac/JMM PPV#'s.
Pac wouldn't do the #'s he did with no other fighters other than
De La Hoya/Hatton/Floyd and the same with Floyd. Remember!
Floyd is coming back off a 2 year layoff, people will want to see
what he is about, PLUS Floyd is a mainstream commercial boxer.
Manny Pacquiao is indeed in demand but his PPV#'s still didn't
beat Floyd's when he fought Oscar/Hatton. And for the record
I think Floyd will fight Mosley before Pac would.

[jetgeomcx]

What fight did Manny outdraw Floyd in ,,, I will take your bet that Floyd JMM outsells Manny vs JMM , you want the bet ?

i said manny today sells more than floyd.
manny-jmm??? come on man,...that was eons ago!
5k on manny-ricky ppv >>> floyd-jmm ppv....reply and sig it man!

[Allucard]

I knew it. This verifies it. Pacquiao likes the perception of belief that he can beat true 147 fighters, but it's an obvious fabrication. Mosley would knock his little ass into next week and he knows it. Pacquiao should simply state look, I realize what I have done is remarkable but I'm not a 147 fighter and I never will be. That would be tremendously more acceptable and respectable than maintaining this facade that the mighty mouse can take out much larger fighters who will illustrate the meaning of beatdown to Pacquiao without breaking a sweat. Cotto, Mosley, and Mayweather(who I cannot stand personally) will beat Pacquiao decisively. He's reached his plateau and will be summarily dismissed reaching for the lofty Mt Olympus goals. It's called Zeus *****. He's waiting and will thunderbolt your ass back to reality.

Pacquiao is a great fighter. He deserves all the hype. I'm a Mayweather fan btw and a Pacquiao fan. I think Mayweather might beat Pacquiao but it could also be the case Pacquiao is better at this point in their careers. When Mayweather was at 135 and until 2006 i think he was unbeatable. He's not a true WW btw.