Pacquiao's Adviser Says "Mosley at 144 is Too Much"

[flipside]

is this thread a convention of all whining pachaters? it's not even PAC who made this comment and you're all getting your panties in a bunch.

prior to DLH, PAC's last fight was at 135, oscar was at 154. Pac didnt chase Oscar, Oscar wanted the fight himself, so why would PAC go up almost 20lbs to 154? And who the **** wouldn't accept that multi-million once in a lifetime fight if it was offered to you? If Darchinyan was the P4P #1, i'm pretty sure he'd fight Oscar too if it was offered to him, at 140 maybe?

now mosley aches for a pac fight, pac isnt looking for him. if you're not a ****** you know who should give in these kind of situations.

but then again, these are just prefight negotiations, nothing final, just trying to feel what leverage one got on the other, so stop whining bitches.

co sign. its wakee salud speaking. he is an adviser not a spokesperson.

[flipside]

Dave, relax man, American, Phillipino, Japanes or whatever, BUSINESS
is BUSINESS and it is not appropriate for people that you do business
with have you playing catch up. The God Father analogy is right on
point because if your in a meeting and someone on your team speak
up without consulting or asking your thoughts and you let the other
person that you are or that is trying to do business with you know
that the team is not unified on business decision it shows weakness
and not a strong chain of command. Manny's advisor's work for
Manny and it is their jobs to make the best decisions for Manny but
also it is their jobs to talk to and get Manny thoughts and opinions
before making business decisions that are clearly HIS business.
Why do you think Red Foxx, Mike Tyson and MC Hammer went
broke? They didn't have to right communication and allowed
people to run their business without prior notice. On top of that
Manny is not doing business in the Phillipins, he's doing business
in American and the last time I checked, this is how we do business
out here.

as advisers their job is to tell manny what They think and for manny to either follow it or not.

[flipside]

i remember naseem hamed when asked if he would move up to 130 to fighty chico or floyd before the sanchez fight and he said "why should i move up they should move down for me if they want a piece of me".

[Maestro USA]

Come on Manny Duckman. 144lbs is drained enough for anyone who is supposedly the p4p1. The guy was just at 160, this is getting out of hand.

:gay:

[freedom213]

You're missing the point. If he doesn't want to fight Mosley at a weight Mosley can manage without being weight drained, he can just say no to the fight. It's really very simple.

But asking someone to come in weight drained makes a complete farce of a great sport.

yes it is unethical of Roach and Manny's advisors to do this. I agree that Mosley is a grown man and makes his own decisions at least now that he is divorced but imagine this scenario.

In Mosley's haste and desire to beat the p4p champ and achieve a higher status before his retirement he agrees to terms and the fight happens at 142. things go well in training and although it is very difficult Shane squeezes down to make weight. Problem is Mosley loses too much weight and leaves everything on the scale. Because of his big heart and solid chin he takes everything Pac has for 12 brutal one sided rounds but is too drained to fight back, too proud to quit. After the fight Mosley is rushed to the hospital and goes into a coma with cerebral edema, brain swelling, he never wakes up. What is your opinion of this scenario now?

[Maestro USA]

co sign. its wakee salud speaking. he is an adviser not a spokesperson.

Exactly!

Pacquiao's "advisers" do all the ducking for him, followed by the spokesperson, followed by Roach, and finally the head protector, Arum himself!

[GRUSTLER]

as advisers their job is to tell manny what They think and for manny to either follow it or not.

OK, so how come his advisor's keep speaking out instead of keeping
their mouths shut. If that's the practice then obviously Manny is
Cosigning it.

[flipside]

OK, so how come his advisor's keep speaking out instead of keeping
their mouths shut. If that's the practice then obviously Manny is
Cosigning it.

and the point that pinoys and americans are different is made.

[Maestro USA]

OK, so how come his advisor's keep speaking out instead of keeping
their mouths shut. If that's the practice then obviously Manny is
Cosigning it.

We have a winner!

How many times have the "advisor's" said, "144 is fine, Mosley is draining his body to make this fight happen, we are thankful he's willing to come down in weight at his age".

No, they say BS and the *******s make the excuses for their Hero/God/President.

[Dave Rado]

as advisers their job is to tell manny what They think and for manny to either follow it or not.

Absolutely. And if Manny wants to let them mouth off to the press without consulting with him first, that's his business. Having said that, it does make him look bad. And it made him look very bad when he let them negotiate a deal with Hatton without consulting him, and he then said no to the deal after it had already been agreed. But if that's the way he wants to do business, there's no law against it. And as I said, I suspect it's really just a cultural difference, and that things are much more relaxed in the Philippines than they are in the US or Europe. And anyway, he sees himself primarily as a boxer, not as a businessman.