Clottey Fought Margarito Too Ya Know?

[larry x]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think Marg started cheating until after the Williams loss. His whole world was upside down, his "most feared man in boxing" persona shattered, and the belt he had held for 5 years, defended 7 times, gone. Maybe we'll never know.

damn you beat me to it..1000 percent agree

[Scott9945]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think Marg started cheating until after the Williams loss. His whole world was upside down, his "most feared man in boxing" persona shattered, and the belt he had held for 5 years, defended 7 times, gone. Maybe we'll never know.

At this point that seems like a reasonable theory. His power did seem improved after Williams took his punches so well.

[krispy kreme]

Clottey was DQ'd against Baldomir wasn't he? isn't saying "Baldomir beat Clottey" like saying Montell Griffin beat Roy Jones? It's a loss in your record but right beside that L they'll be a (DQ) which says a lot.

It depends on how you look at it, but knowing how frustrated Clottey gets, I don't put it passed him to headbutt intentionally; the guy fights dirty.

[Deja_Vous]

Its so funny how all the media and a ton of fans on here are trying to say that Margarito's win against Cotto doesnt count but they never say anything about Clottey. I still say that Margarito was using them back then also. How can everyone act like Margarito was loaded against Cotto and not give Clottey that same respect when theyre about to fight eachother. As far as Im concerned, Clottey is undefeated. I mean he fought the same exact Margarito, was up on the cards until he hurt his hand, and after that he basically let Margarito hit him at will and never got hurt one single time while Cotto was being destroyed. Im sick of all the one sided stuff in Cotto's favor all the time. I bet anything that if it was Floyd that lost to Margarito then no one would be saying that it didnt count. You know that everyone would be saying that they cant prove that he was loaded against Floyd. I just love the fact that Margarito used the loaded gloves only against Cotto but not against Clottey, Williams, and Cintron. I know he definatly used them against Johnson.

Dont get me wrong, I dont mind peopel saying that about Cotto because I beleive it too but you have to be fair with all the fighters in that regard. BTW, I still think people are sleeping on Margarito if he fought Cotto again. Should be a great fight this weekend. I totally disagree with the writer who just made the article where he thinks theyre is an 80% chance of a Cotto win because Cotto is a top 5 P4P guy while Clottey is top 30. Im not buying that big of a gap in Cotto's favor if theyre is 1 at all. Unless the weight has finally caught up to Clottey then I think he's going to give Cotto mad hell. I cant wait

The Tony win over Clottey should be a NC

[Bhopreign]

I always thought he used them against Johnson. I believe he had hardened wraps going into that fight simply because he needed to blast Johnson out of there fast, if Johnson last longer than 3 or more rounds Marg's reputation would have suffered a blow. I believe he used them against Paul Williams also. He started coming on late and hurt Williams late in the fight, but I also believe Chavez used something in his gloves also, like Marg in so many of his fights he came on late and hurt his opponents badly, not evident early in fights but always late.

[DLT]

I always thought he used them against Johnson. I believe he had hardened wraps going into that fight simply because he needed to blast Johnson out of there fast, if Johnson last longer than 3 or more rounds Marg's reputation would have suffered a blow. I believe he used them against Paul Williams also. He started coming on late and hurt Williams late in the fight, but I also believe Chavez used something in his gloves also, like Marg in so many of his fights he came on late and hurt his opponents badly, not evident early in fights but always late.

Thats what Im saying. How can everyone keep saying "after Williams"? What about Santos? I would think that Margarito would start using them after not winning against him. Roach made it sound like he has a rep for using them for years, even in the gym. Im not going to say that he started it here or there but I just dont think its fair that you can say that he used them against Cotto and not the other fights. He had a reason to use them before the Williams fight. He was an unknown moving up to 154 to fight a guy in Santos that he had to beat if he wanted the hype to keep up. Why not then? Why not before then? Who knows. Either way you cant keep acting like Cotto is the golden boy who gets the pass and no one else does. "However", if he was to soundly beat Clottey then he will make his case that much better

[Kenny Blankenship]

I always thought he used them against Johnson. I believe he had hardened wraps going into that fight simply because he needed to blast Johnson out of there fast, if Johnson last longer than 3 or more rounds Marg's reputation would have suffered a blow. I believe he used them against Paul Williams also. He started coming on late and hurt Williams late in the fight, but I also believe Chavez used something in his gloves also, like Marg in so many of his fights he came on late and hurt his opponents badly, not evident early in fights but always late.

I also believe there's a very good chance he used them against Williams.

Don't forget. He fought Cintron before Williams and it looks like he used them in that fight.

I haven't seen the punch stats, but from what I remember Marg didn't land much against Williams the first half of the fight, it wasn't until the second half that he really started coming on.

In reality, the only people that know when he started using them for sure is Marg and his trainer. Everything else is pure speculation.