Wladimir vs Chagaev: For Undisputed Title?

**Owlzfan84** · 06-06-2009, 04:44 PM

lots of titles, but to me unless vitali and wlad fight which will never happen, we dont have an undisputed champ.

**MANGLER** · 06-06-2009, 04:47 PM

Wlad wouldn't be undisputed if he won. He'd be lineal tho.

**larry x** · 06-06-2009, 04:49 PM

yes wlad would be linear and undisputed..who would dispute hes the man now????

**Silver Shamrock** · 06-06-2009, 04:49 PM

How does Lineal get established and who knows whether Wlad would get anything from the WBA for beating Ruslan?

**Jim Jeffries** · 06-06-2009, 04:51 PM

Well it would be the same number of belts that Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis had, swap out the WBC for the WBA, when people called them Undisputed.

Lineal + Ring Magazine + 3 of the 4 major belts = Undisputed in my book.

**larry x** · 06-06-2009, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Silver Shamrock

How does Lineal get established and who knows whether Wlad would get anything from the WBA for beating Ruslan?

linear=ring belt
or the man who beat the man who beat the man

**MANGLER** · 06-06-2009, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by larrysmith

yes wlad would be linear and undisputed..who would dispute hes the man now????

Logically, Wlad would be undisputed. He already is at this point. But as a matter of official record, if he ain't got the WBC belt wit all the others, he wouldn't be undisputed.

**The_Visitation** · 06-06-2009, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Enayze

Whoever wins between these two will own the WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring Title. Is that enough to call the winner the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world?

They won't 'own' the WBA belt. Chagaev only holds half of it, and that isn't his to give away.

Dunno. The Ring title speaks for itself, but it would still seem odd that Wlad was 'undisputed' when Vitali, who most people think is as good if not better, holds the WBC title.

**crold1** · 06-06-2009, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Enayze

Whoever wins between these two will own the WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring Title. Is that enough to call the winner the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world?

Yes. If Wlad wins, that's 11 in a row and he's all but cleaned out class. If Chag wins he almost certainly ends up with Vit sooner than later so then the only remaining issue is shored up and he can just enter reigning.

This fight is the best place to renew divisional lineage since Lewis retired.

and NO, Vit's Ring title in 04-05 does not count. Joke.

Wladimir vs Chagaev: For Undisputed Title?