Bert Sugar: Leonard beats Mayweather Jr. easy!

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  • S.G.
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    #21
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
    Leonard would beat Mayweather, I disagree where he said easy. Gotta understand SRL was a huge WW and has every physical advantage over Floyd.
    Yeah.

    And to be honest, Leonard is one of the few boxers who I consider more talented than Mayweather

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    • crold1
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      #22
      Originally posted by S.G.
      Yeah.

      And to be honest, Leonard is one of the few boxers who I consider more talented than Mayweather
      Really depends on how easy is defined. If Easy means by a wide decision, sure. But he'd have to have his work shoes on.

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        #23
        Originally posted by S.G.
        Yeah.

        And to be honest, Leonard is one of the few boxers who I consider more talented than Mayweather
        SRL was indeed more talented, he wasn't complete though. He, like RJJ, was very dependent on his athletic ability. His defense wasn't the best but it didn't need to be.

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        • Heru
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          #24
          I don't think it would be easy, but SRL's stamina and speed will unlock any defense over 15.

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          • Doctor_Tenma
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            #25
            Originally posted by Ravishing
            Sugar Ray would beat Floyd IMO. Leonard was fast, but wasn't as elusive as Floyd is, but that's what made him such a great fighter. He was a smart fighter, but he also FOUGHT.

            I have Ray winning on points or late stoppage. Ray didn't pitty pat his way to victories.
            "Pitty Pat"? sure...

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            • talip bin osman
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              #26
              Originally posted by Ravishing

              I have Ray winning on points or late stoppage. Ray didn't pitty pat his way to victories.
              c'mon now man...

              the 2nd duran fight was as pitty-patting as anyone can get...

              & the hagler fight was exactly pitty-patting with some flashy but less substance flurries to steal some rounds against the middleweight champion...

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              • DonTaseMeBrah
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                #27
                leonard would crush fraud jr.

                ray slight advantage in speed
                fraud jr slight advantage in defence
                about the same in footwork

                Big big edge to ray leonard in the power & heart department & level of competition.

                Ray has been tested. We know how he handles adversity & defeat. Thats the ultimate barometer of true greatness.

                How do we know what fraud jr is made of when we havent seen him get tested or face adversity?

                His biggest test was jose luis castillo for chriss sakes.

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                • Doctor_Tenma
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by talip bin osman
                  c'mon now man...

                  the 2nd duran fight was as pitty-patting as anyone can get...

                  & the hagler fight was exactly pitty-patting with some flashy but less substance flurries to steal some rounds against the middleweight champion...
                  Man, I respect SRL but the way he clowned in the 2nd fight against Duran pissed me off. That isn't what I would call "Revenge".

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                  • crold1
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                    SRL was indeed more talented, he wasn't complete though. He, like RJJ, was very dependent on his athletic ability. His defense wasn't the best but it didn't need to be.
                    His defense suffered because he came to fight. His head movement was still awesome and he was a tough target. Look at him counter Benitez off of rolls and feints.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by crold1
                      His defense suffered because he came to fight. His head movement was still awesome and he was a tough target. Look at him counter Benitez off of rolls and feints.
                      Yes, he looked great against Benitez, another great fighter but Benitez had a 2 week notice.

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