Why does Haye have to earn a shot?

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  • Wood23ard
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    #1

    Why does Haye have to earn a shot?

    Isn't unifying the division below enough? Especially when the HW div is in such a poor state. Manny/Hatton/Floyd/Marquez can all jump up in weight and get the best fights without working up to a shot so why should Haye?

    Klit is ducking Haye, simple as that. He never wanted anything to do with Haye. I can't wait till Haye kills this *****,

    and who cares that Clit is now fighting for the ring title, titles don't mean much anymore.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Wood23ard
    Isn't unifying the division below enough? Especially when the HW div is in such a poor state. Manny/Hatton/Floyd/Marquez can all jump up in weight and get the best fights without working up to a shot so why should Haye?

    Klit is ducking Haye, simple as that. He never wanted anything to do with Haye. I can't wait till Haye kills this *****,

    and who cares that Clit is now fighting for the ring title, titles don't mean much anymore.
    Haye will hopefully either fight Vitali Arreola or someone like Valuev next.

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    • Dubious-Dutch
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      #3
      Originally posted by Wood23ard
      Isn't unifying the division below enough? Especially when the HW div is in such a poor state. Manny/Hatton/Floyd/Marquez can all jump up in weight and get the best fights without working up to a shot so why should Haye?

      Klit is ducking Haye, simple as that. He never wanted anything to do with Haye. I can't wait till Haye kills this *****,

      and who cares that Clit is now fighting for the ring title, titles don't mean much anymore.
      The Ring title is actually much more prestigious than those crooked organization trinkets. Hatton, Calzaghe and many others boxers/fans feel the same.

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      • eazy_mas
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        #4
        The Ring magazine is owned by GBP

        also they are abit bais against Klit brother due to the Russian domination of the HW theme.

        Anyway Haye got the shout because he is very good with trash talk and knows how to sell a fight.

        but if you see closely how many real contedner have Haye fought?

        Monte Barrett is a good start but he never face a contender like Ruiz, Ruslan, Sultan, Aerlo...etc

        he still go alot of work to do.

        It just unfair for people who have to fight all the way in the HW ladder to get a title shot when another just comes in and trash talks to get one in less then one or two HW fight

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        • Dubious-Dutch
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          #5
          Originally posted by eazy_mas
          The Ring magazine is owned by GBP

          also they are abit bais against Klit brother due to the Russian domination of the HW theme.

          Anyway Haye got the shout because he is very good with trash talk and knows how to sell a fight.

          but if you see closely how many real contedner have Haye fought?

          Monte Barrett is a good start but he never face a contender like Ruiz, Ruslan, Sultan, Aerlo...etc

          he still go alot of work to do.

          It just unfair for people who have to fight all the way in the HW ladder to get a title shot when another just comes in and trash talks to get one in less then one or two HW fight
          How many times must people be told that Goldenboy promotions does not influence The Ring at all. They have written many articles tearing down Delahoya after his loss to Manny and their rankings are pretty solid for the most part. Enough with conspiracy theories.

          And LOL at anyone caring about Russian domination. The Cold War is over. Be serious.

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          • beecherhq
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            #6
            Originally posted by DeafCon
            How many times must people be told that Goldenboy promotions does not influence The Ring at all. They have written many articles tearing down Delahoya after his loss to Manny and their rankings are pretty solid for the most part. Enough with conspiracy theories.

            And LOL at anyone caring about Russian domination. The Cold War is over. Be serious.
            Thats what you think.........

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            • eazy_mas
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              #7
              Originally posted by DeafCon
              How many times must people be told that Goldenboy promotions does not influence The Ring at all. They have written many articles tearing down Delahoya after his loss to Manny and their rankings are pretty solid for the most part. Enough with conspiracy theories.

              And LOL at anyone caring about Russian domination. The Cold War is over. Be serious.

              simple question which is the HW to beat to become number 1?

              Wlad or Vital Klitch.

              easy and simple when you wanna fight with The Ring belt or not it still those two are the man to beat.

              As for the GBP does not influnce the writing on The Ring is not that much true.

              They wont lower pac ranking it would make Oscar look very bad anyway.

              Also If you seen the movie: " How to lose friend and alienate people." you would understand how the media goes

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              • Dubious-Dutch
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                #8
                Originally posted by eazy_mas
                simple question which is the HW to beat to become number 1?

                Wlad or Vital Klitch.

                easy and simple when you wanna fight with The Ring belt or not it still those two are the man to beat.

                As for the GBP does not influnce the writing on The Ring is not that much true.

                They wont lower pac ranking it would make Oscar look very bad anyway.

                Also If you seen the movie: " How to lose friend and alienate people." you would understand how the media goes
                Wlad would have to beat Chagaev in order to obtain The Ring Belt. Vitali will retire soon anyways.

                You don't believe Pacman is the number one P4P fighter in the world?

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                • Johnny Rebel
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                  #9
                  How can Wlad be ducking Haye when he was the one willing to put his title on the line? You would think Wlad was the one who pulled out of this fight...

                  There's a big difference from going up 7 pounds in lighter weight divisions and going up from CW (190 lbs.) to a 250 pound HW.

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                  • eazy_mas
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DeafCon
                    Wlad would have to beat Chagaev in order to obtain The Ring Belt. Vitali will retire soon anyways.

                    You don't believe Pacman is the number one P4P fighter in the world?
                    After winning two or more belts belts are nothing but a title and to show you are strong.

                    Because if I was a HW and the I want to fight the best HW even those with WBC, IBF...etc belts I would wanna choose the best guy to beat up so I could take his place.

                    Right now Wlad and Vitali are the top 2.

                    Also beating Pac is something very good you get extra publicity and go from a boxing star to mainstream media star.

                    Pac is the man to beat if you are a fight around 140s not denying that but what have pac do with HW ranking system and if Haye deserve it or not?

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