I hope Haye retires!!!

**IconBoy** · 06-05-2009, 01:42 AM

Good post, but that will just go over the heads of the morons on this site.
Haye wants to be heavyweight champ bad, why would he risk serious injury and still fight Wlad anyway, some people are just plain sick if they would rather see an injured Haye fight, then not at all.

**Dubious-Dutch** · 06-05-2009, 02:09 AM

Haye just has to work his way back into contention. If people remember correctly David said his plan was to fight some ranked Heavy Weights in order to earn a bout with Wlad. Now he has a chance to do that.

**BetterCallSaul** · 06-05-2009, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by DeafCon

Haye just has to work his way back into contention. If people remember correctly David said his plan was to fight some ranked Heavy Weights in order to earn a bout with Wlad. Now he has a chance to do that.

Work his way back into contention? Most of the HW division is full of fat, boring, slobs who can't make a fight exciting enough for fans to stay awake. Being a former unifed Cruiserweight Champion beats most of the HW top ten's achievements. This isn't the Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis era.

**Dubious-Dutch** · 06-05-2009, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by timba1988

Work his way back into contention? Most of the HW division is full of fat, boring, slobs who can't make a fight exciting enough for fans to stay awake. Being a former unifed Cruiserweight Champion beats most of the HW top ten's achievements. This isn't the Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis era.

If all the Heavyweights are boring fat slobs let Haye knock a few of the ranked ones out. Haye was the one who said he would work his way up in the rankings. He talked himself into a fight once but now due to injury the only route may be to work his way up the ladder. It would be unfair to actual contenders if David were to get another shot at the champion.

**BetterCallSaul** · 06-05-2009, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by DeafCon

If all the Heavyweights are boring fat slobs let Haye knock a few of the ranked ones out. Haye was the one who said he would work his way up in the rankings. He talked himself into a fight once but now due to injury the only route may be to work his way up the ladder. It would be unfair to actual contenders if David were to get another shot at the champion.

I don't think anybody wants to see Haye vs Ruiz, Thompson, Peter, and the like. That is not good for boxing. Haye is a superstar in the making. Wlad can easily delay the biggest fight of his life for 3 weeks. If not, he is back to fighting in meaningless, boring fights, that nobody will remember.

**Dubious-Dutch** · 06-05-2009, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by timba1988

I don't think anybody wants to see Haye vs Ruiz, Thompson, Peter, and the like. That is not good for boxing. Haye is a superstar in the making. Wlad can easily delay the biggest fight of his life for 3 weeks. If not, he is back to fighting in meaningless, boring fights, that nobody will remember.

The majority of people wanted to see this fight and I am sure Haye did as well but he doesn't have many options after pulling out{Due to injury}. Wlad holds all the cards and it is his choice to either wait for Haye who may not be healed by July or pursue other options/fighters.

**Silkstone** · 06-05-2009, 02:44 AM

To Timba1988
Wow, when I read the title of your post I was bout to go up in arms thinking it was just another post by some Klitlicker, but what you said is actually on point, and you get green K for that. However, as empassioned as your disposition may be, Haye cannot, and will not retire from his quest. He has been dubbed as 'boxing's last crusader', and rightfully so. Whatever anybody thinks about his perspective future means **** all to Haye, I truly believe in the guy and I think that nothing is going to stop him from unifying the HW division. You know what? If Wlad wants to fight Chagaev now, bloody well let him... that just means Haye's one step closer when he KOs the Ukranian. The thing that makes Haye truly admirable is that was he 'deserves' doesn't matter to him. He has a mission, and he's going to go to the ends of the earth to accomplish that. Haye has stated well and clear that someone WILL get KOd when he and Wlad fight (which, if it's cancelled, will be on Wlad's back, not Haye's). He doesn't give a toss, he truly believes that he has a destiny to be the unifier of a horrifically BORING divison. Seriously... what happened to the heavyweights though? The heavyweight championship of the world was once the bastion on masculinity, and now it's a humdrum family affair for a group of eastern europeans (no offence intended to any E. Europeans on NSB, btw). I just believe that Haye is the best thing that's happened to the division for a long long time. Although the divison may not deserve him, he has a greater purpose in mind, and one for which we should thank his persuit.

**ACHlLLES** · 06-05-2009, 02:48 AM

Arreola can beat Haye, and vice-verse. That is a 50/50 fight in my book. And its a friend friendly fight since neither have super great defenses and someone is bound to get hit, most likely both of them. And you can talk bad about Arreolas fat body, but you can't deny his workrate and his heart. Arreola has hit canvas and got up to win those fights. I think he only hit canvas once and I believe it was against hard-hitter travis walker.

**street bully** · 06-05-2009, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by timba1988

Because boxing doesn't deserve him.

Wlad vs Haye was going to be the biggest HW fight since Lewis/Tyson, and that's all down to Haye. If Wlad doesn't do the decent thing and wait three weeks to fight Haye, then he is a coward. Chagaev has been injured for two years, and has looked terrible in recent fights. It's a dud match. In reality Wlad never wanted to fight Haye, until he was forced to. He made Haye sign a deal which favours him 90/10, and locks him into several rematches. But being the warrior he is, Haye signed it anyway, eager to get his shot.

Now he is injured it seems as if everybody has turned their backs on him. Most people are saying that Chagaev is the better fight. Bulls**t! The people saying this are the same people who complain that the HW division is s**t and needs a make over. Trust me, Chagaev vs Wlad does nothing for the HW division. Haye is the only boxer that can bring it back from the depths.

In my opinion, Wlad should wait three weeks for Haye to return. Fair enough if Haye gets injured again then he has a pass to fight who ever he wants, but he should give Haye time to recover. 3 weeks for the biggest HW fight of the decade, or fight Chagaev in a borefest? Knowing Wlad he will want to fight the borefest and send the world to sleep with his jab. If he is serious about becoming a great champion for the fans, he will fight the only in shape, powerful, fast, exciting, heavyweight there is. His name is David Haye.

If this fight doesn't happen Haye should retire and leave the HW division to rot in the memories of what could have been. Because boxing doesn't deserve him.

Boxing doesn't deserve him? Wtf are you taking about. Haye has done absolutely nothing in his career. Boxing sure as hell doesn't need him, and he has done nothing of note for the sport.

I hope Haye retires!!!