Why did Oscar didnt get the same bull **** againts Hopkins?

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  • miron_lang
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    #1

    Why did Oscar didnt get the same bull **** againts Hopkins?

    Bernard Hopkins weighs 156lbs againts the 155lbs Oscar DelaHoya for Hopkins WORLD MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE.

    Its in the contract that Hopkins cant be heavier than 156




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    Mosley going down 3 pounds is unfair?????


    Maybe MANNY PACQUAIO has COMPLETELY ALTERED THE BOXING WORLD


    before : Fighters doesnt know when to stop climbing in weight divisions because as high as they go the less effective theyve become.


    Now: Fighters going down 1 division or even 2 or 3 lbs below the limit will be dehydrated againts a man going up 2 divisions and has MAJORITY of his fights fought at a weight class 8 divisions lighter
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    @144 PAC has the advantage
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    @144 Mosley still has the advantage
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    #2
    Have said this before, If he fights Mosley at 147 and stipulate in the contract that Mosley cant come in over 148 i would respect him more because a WW is suppose to be 147 not 160 plus on fight night.

    But if you want to fight for the WW belt telling someone to weigh in at 142 is bull.

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      #3
      Originally posted by raycorey
      Have said this before, If he fights Mosley at 147 and stipulate in the contract that Mosley cant come in over 148 i would respect him more because a WW is suppose to be 147 not 160 plus on fight night.

      But if you want to fight for the WW belt telling someone to weigh in at 142 is bull.
      DLH did this againts Hopkins. I dont think even a single thread was made regarding the weight (156) Hopkins had to make. And Hopkins was ****in Huge Middle a Natural light Heavy.


      If DLH pulled it. I guess he gets TONS of credit.

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        #4
        was Nard's title on the line for that one?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Makavelli
          was Nard's title on the line for that one?
          yep.. that was for the undisputed middleweight championship..

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            #6
            Originally posted by Makavelli
            was Nard's title on the line for that one?
            YES


            155 to 160 is a MIDDLEWEIGHT FIGHT

            141 to 147 lbs is a WELTERWEIGHT FIGHT

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              #7
              Originally posted by Makavelli
              was Nard's title on the line for that one?
              All 3 of them including the ring belt, which made it 4. Oscar got ****ed up anyways and had no chance so no biggie.

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                #8
                Originally posted by miron_lang
                DLH did this againts Hopkins. I dont think even a single thread was made regarding the weight (156) Hopkins had to make. And Hopkins was ****in Huge Middle a Natural light Heavy.


                If DLH pulled it. I guess he gets TONS of credit.

                Its difficult to know what happened years ago on a boxing forum, I dont think we have has many people then that we have now. Imagine if we have the same scenario back when Sugar ray leonard retires and then comes back to fight Hagler then retired again after a controversial decision???

                I think oscar was right in telling B-hop to weigh in under the Middleweight limit ON fight night not a day before, That way he would know he would be competing against a middleweight on fight night not a light-heavyweight but at the sametime B-hop wouldnt have to drain himself 24 hours before the fight.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by raycorey
                  Its difficult to know what happened years ago on a boxing forum, I dont think we have has many people then that we have now. Imagine if we have the same scenario back when Sugar ray leonard retires and then comes back to fight Hagler then retired again after a controversial decision???

                  I think oscar was right in telling B-hop to weigh in under the Middleweight limit ON fight night not a day before, That way he would know he would be competing against a middleweight on fight night not a light-heavyweight but at the sametime B-hop wouldnt have to drain himself 24 hours before the fight.
                  I understand that.

                  But as i remember it. The fight (in the forums BS included) was fair in all aspects. No excuses were readied before the fight.


                  And i think that fight and Pac-Mosley were very very similar. Mosley knocking pac the same way hopkins did is also a big possibility

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by yeks
                    yep.. that was for the undisputed middleweight championship..
                    Originally posted by miron_lang
                    YES


                    155 to 160 is a MIDDLEWEIGHT FIGHT

                    141 to 147 lbs is a WELTERWEIGHT FIGHT
                    Originally posted by street bully
                    All 3 of them including the ring belt, which made it 4. Oscar got ****ed up anyways and had no chance so no biggie.

                    even as an oscar hater, i dont remember complaining about that stipulation...do you guys think PAC-SSM should be for shane's title?

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