Appears confusion about what fans are criticizing regarding Mayweather/Marquez

[Bhopreign]

how many times were camacho , whitaker and oscar ever been koed?

2-3 times all 3 put together? only 1 being a real ko?

floyd can be hurt. i've seen him get hurt. he has a good chin but it's not granite like those guys.

besides tito can hurt him just by hitting arms and shoulders.

How many times has Floyd been KO'ed. I barely remember him landing on Hopkins, Floyd has better defense, footspeed, etc.

[F-22 Raptor]

You are going to be upset about anything Floyd does...other than drop dead or turn into a mexican.

malcolm if floyd fought the people he has to fight in order to break in top 15 ATG, like Cotto or Mosley, people woudn't be hard on him. when he says himself "THEY ARE TOO SMALL FOR ME" you already know he's just bullyin people to make money and not fights that people want to see.

[WhoreUs]

How many times has Floyd been KO'ed. I barely remember him landing on Hopkins, Floyd has better footspeed, etc.

that's different.

floyd has never been hit much let alone koed.

camacho , whitaker (when he was old) and oscar got hit plenty of times and that shows how good their chins are.

out of all 3 i think only oscar has been koed (not tko) and that was by a hopkins body shot.



we'll never know. it's pointless anyway. floyd wouldn't even fight cotto or marg. i doubt he'd fight tito. lol

[Pullcounter]

People don't know this, maybe they're not paying attention but Mayweather was very cautious of Zab's left uppercut (Which Pacquiao doesn't have) and Pacquiao left straight isn't nearly as fast as Judah's left straight. People tend to ignore that, they really do.

i dunno how you can definitely say judah's straight left is faster than pac's straight left unless you did tests or something. where do you get your data? seriously, I want cold objective data.

get footage from actual fights...

take pac's KO left punch against hatton and time that punch, then take judah's left punch from say... the clotty or cotto fight and time them. tell us the results.

What worries me, is that Pacquiao will get out of the way after throwing/ or landing a combination, Mayweather can't afford to lose mini second. Also Pacquiao is simply a mentally stronger fighter then Zab and way more consistent. Mayweather better be at his best, which I believe he will.

also you have to consider that floyd already beat up zab in sparring, but floyd has never fought anybody like pac before. I think hopkins said in an interview that pac has a karate style that is awkward and hard to get used to.

[Bhopreign]

that's different.

floyd has never been hit much let alone koed.

camacho , whitaker (when he was old) and oscar got hit plenty of times and that shows how good their chins are.

out of all 3 i think only oscar has been koed (not tko) and that was by a hopkins body shot.



we'll never know. it's pointless anyway. floyd wouldn't even fight cotto or marg. i doubt he'd fight tito. lol

Cotto is on the hitlist so its coming.

[El Chicano]

Important comments to make. People make a bid deal over size, but if the fighter's style does not utilize his size, then it is irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant, any way you want to look at it, Floyd is still the naturally larger man, regardless of how he's gonna fight. At the end of the day, they're gonna land punches on each other and Floyd's punches will be those of the naturally larger man. It wouldn't be relevant if they were maybe having a spitball fight, but in boxing it is very relevant.

[Pullcounter]

that's different.

floyd has never been hit much let alone koed.

camacho , whitaker (when he was old) and oscar got hit plenty of times and that shows how good their chins are.

out of all 3 i think only oscar has been koed (not tko) and that was by a hopkins body shot.



we'll never know. it's pointless anyway. floyd wouldn't even fight cotto or marg. i doubt he'd fight tito. lol

I don't think floyd could take a tito punch flush, but I don't think tito lands a flush shot on floyd.

[Doctor_Tenma]

JMM will be slower and he has no one to blame but himself. Packing on muscle isn't the way to go about it. He should worry about trying to keep up with Mayweather as oppose to putting a hurting on Floyd (Which he was never gonna be able to do in the first place) Its inevitable, he'll be slower but really, people so badly wanted to see JMM vs Pacquaio III, I do to but wouldn't Marquez deal with the same speed decrease/ disadvantages?

[WhoreUs]

I think hopkins said in an interview that pac has a karate style that is awkward and hard to get used to.

pac being not so technical actually helps him somewhat.

the ko punch on hatton and the kd punch in the marquez rematch weren't text book punches.

a boxer who throws properly wouldn't have been able to land those punches.

[WhoreUs]

I don't think floyd could take a tito punch flush, but I don't think tito lands a flush shot on floyd.

how about when tito lands that hook on floyd's shoulders and arms?

i think it could wear him down.