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The fact is, Baldomir was ranked number 1 at Welterweight, not Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, Williams... you say "to be the best you have to beat the best" but at the end of the day Baldomir was a lineal #1 legitimate Welterweight champion at the time and nobody can deny that, the talk about Baldomir not being skilled is merely an opinion... but he was ranked #1 at Welterweight at the time. Nothing you say can discredit that.
If you get your facts straight, Floyd offered a fight at 140 but Ricky's dad said he wasn't ready yet...
His dad said he wasn't ready, it was straight after he beat Tzsyu... he wasn't ready for a guy like Floyd yet, you prove that Floyd ducked him at 140... you prove he didn't...Comment
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We have Ricky "The Hitman" Hatton who is undefeated at 140 lbs.. facing arguably the best pound for pound best fighter in the world, Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao. Pacman is coming off his biggest win and one of the biggest upsets in boxing history with his one-sided drubbing of Hall of Fame fighter, Oscar De La Hoya. No one gave Pacman a chance against De La Hoya, including me. No one also thought that we would see De La Hoya perform like a weight-drained punching bag against Pacman. A prime, well-conditioned De La Hoya would make Pacman look like an undersized amateur.
Not to take anything away from Pacman because he is a great fighter. I just believe that if De La Hoya had not been weight drained the size advantage combined with De La Hoya's superior boxing ability would have been too much for the much smaller and less skilled Pacman.
Hatton's biggest win by far is his victory over Kostya Tsyzu. No one thought Hatton would defeat him, especially in the manner in which he did. Much like Pacman did to De La Hoya, making him quit on his stool. However, Hatton has never rivaled such a victory as that since then. His victories over Luis Collazo at 147 lbs. and Jose Luis Castillo were very lackluster. He beat up Castillo who was a mere shell of the man who had once given Floyd Mayweather, Jr. his toughest match and defeated the late Diego Corales. His victory against Collazo was a gimme in the minds of many observers that night, especially considering Collazo was the champ at the time. It also prompted Hatton to immediately move back down to 140 lbs. and make his infamous quote " I'm not ready for the likes of a Mayweather perhaps after a few more fights." We all know what happened when he did step into the ring with the then pound for pound king, Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Hatton made a brilliant move however, in firing his former trainer Billy Graham and hiring Floyd Mayweather, Sr. Although his performance against Paulie Malignaggi was far from awe inspiring it showed marked improvement in his boxing skills under the tutelage of Floyd, Sr.
Pacman, unlike Hatton, has shown consistent progress and improvement with each fight. He has evolved from a come forward, wild swinging, overly aggressive brawler to more of skilled boxer-puncher. This evolution has allowed Pacquiao to move up in weight and remain very successful. This is also a testament to the brilliant training of Freddie Roach. I'm against boxers playing musical chairs with trainers especially when it's not necessary. Oscar De La Hoya is a poster child for firing and hiring trainers like he's changing clothes. I believe his career suffered somewhat because of it. Pacman wisely stuck with Roach and is reaping the benefits of growing and learning together.
Got this from;
http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=19653&more=1
I heard from somewhere or read from somewhere a while back that Hatton's dad also said that his son isn't ready for Mayweather yet but it was that long ago can't remember were I got it from. Plus it was that long ago that it is hard to find sources on.
Anyway its still a source to say that Hatton wasn't ready for him at the time.
EDIT: I remember now, I heard Floyd say it in a video...Last edited by Spacey1991; 06-01-2009, 06:48 PM.Comment
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LOLOL This is a funny, biased, one-sided article. Belongs on boxing talk with Greg Leon's fan babies. I honestly just don't feel like doing all the typing necessary to straighten this post out. Most serious fans can sort through it on their own, and the ones who can't are Mayweather Mafia and think he ****s gold and platinum and has never ducked anyone.
The majority of his big fights have been fighting naturally smaller fighters, or cherry picking fighters at the right time of their career, etc. He's a very skilled fighter. But he's had really only a handful of fights with guys who are genuine welters and jr middles, which is his natural size. And the list of fighters who we would've rather have seen him fight as opposed to who he actually fought is a mile long (and growing). Marquez has no chance, he's just too small of a guy. Lengthen each of Marquez's limbs by a few inches and give him about 10 more lbs of natural, lean muscle and I think he beats Mayweather. Because he'd be roughly the same size. The fight is going to be competitive at the beginning, but end up a joke. It's going to look like what it is, and what many of Mayweather's fights have been... two fighters in distinctly different weight classes fighting. It means the world below middleweight, which Floyd knows well.
Bottom line. The best and most dangerous fighters in welter or jr middle over the past few years. Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Mosely, etc. We would've all liked to have seen any one of them. It doesn't surprise me that he makes his comeback when Margarito and Williams disappeared from the picture, Cotto's been beaten to a pulp, and SSM turns back the clock for a phenomenal performance but is getting too long in the tooth to keep that pace for another couple years. If he fought those 4 fighters in the past 2 years, he'd be 2-2 against them at best. That's reality. Floyd knows it. That's why he tip-toed around em all.Comment
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** I flush solid daily without any credit whatsoever. You can read it here and be amazed as well.........
Let's drop the quack-quacky talk and just euphemistically admit that since moving up to jr welt, Floydy dearest has been following the path of least resistance. Two title eliminators to fight the least among the 4 jr welt champs, then the fight against the disgraced Zabby. One can excuse his Baldy fight given that the ancient Sasquatch had lifted the WBC and Ring title from poor Zabby.
One can also excuse the money fight with Oscar who was overrated near #1 at 154 in spite of only one win in something like 3 yrs. One can even excuse fighting the #1 jr welt at welt in another money fight, but when you figure in his career Floydy never held but 25% of the belts, and that only being the WBC belt, well, a BIG NEWSFLASH FOR YA: The number of champs he didn't meet probably out number his entire career record.
Must be some sort of un-unified record there, but anyways, wake me up when he actually steps into the ring again. He retired in the middle of a much bigger promotion than Marquez, which sorta begs the question, is he even relevant now? Does he even know what he's doing any more?Comment
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You now that you pointed out yourself Ranking dont mean **** either lets face it Floyd turn down Margarito to Face a much easier oponent in Baldomir.He didnt face non of the top 5 and **** the ranking we all know who was the best W.W out there at the time so plz throw in the towel theres nothing you can say that can change what the man did.Baldomir was num 1 but not the best and in our book that dnt count!!!!!! Also you get the facts straight they were going to fight in Manchester first then Floyd said no that he wanted it in Madison Square Garden then when they said yes Floyd wanted the fight in las Vegas so then Hatton camp said no!!!!!Last edited by yeykax; 06-01-2009, 09:01 PM.Comment
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