You guys remember the days when some people thought pac was too small for mab?

[Little Killer]

then why the hell it isnt made into a rule by the powers that be in boxing?

there must be a good reason why it isnt...

Boxers do this to gain an advanatge. They cut as much weight as possible. And after that they eat and drink as much to rehydrate to much as possible

Cotto at fight night weighs 159
Clottey weighs 170
Margarito is 162

Then you have boxers like Mayweather and Pacman who fight at the WW limit fight night

[Sin City]

Boxing is a sport based on weight NOT height. If that short fat man was 250, he would have to fight at HW. Doesn't matter if he was fat. It's his weight. James Toney is a HW because he weighs the HW limit

Mayweather is closer to Pacman than he is to Cotto

Mayweather can't make 140 (that's where Pacquiao is currently at) so no.. no he isn't.
Mayweather CAN make 147 and that is where he is at.. so by that standard then Cotto and Mayweather are closer then Pacquiao and Mayweather.
You just said it yourself. It's not the fight night weight, it's the weight class.. isn't that what you just said? Busted yourself on that one..

[Little Killer]

Mayweather can't make 140 (that's where Pacquiao is currently at) so no.. no he isn't.
Mayweather CAN make 147 and that is where he is at.. so by that standard then Cotto and Mayweather are closer then Pacquiao and Mayweather.
You just said it yourself. It's not the fight night weight, it's the weight class.. isn't that what you just said? Busted yourself on that one..

Floyd can make 140. I said it before. No point of draining yourself to rehydrate back to 147 fight night.

If PBF/PAC both fought at 140 and 147. Fight night they would weigh the same.

Hopkins fought at 160. Roy Jones fought at 175. If they had a rematch at catchweight. Hopkins would be the bigger guy regardless of RJJ fighting at a higher weight

[Sin City]

Floyd can make 140. I said it before. No point of draining yourself to rehydrate back to 147 fight night.

If PBF/PAC both fought at 140 and 147. Fight night they would weigh the same.

Hopkins fought at 160. Roy Jones fought at 175. If they had a rematch at catchweight. Hopkins would be the bigger guy regardless of RJJ fighting at a higher weight

Floyd CANT make 147 and the Marquez fight is proving it.. why you think he didn't want to go down? Because he can't make the weight and be healthy.
Pacquiao on the other hand can... he can still make 135 too? can floyd do that? NOPE.
Mayweather is a 147 pounder who wont fight dudes his own size. It's all gravy though, that's why Pacquiao is the best and will go down as the best of our generation and Mayweather wont. Pacquiao is not afraid to fight fighters his size and bigger.. Mayweather on the other hand is.

[hookoutofhell]

Floyd can make 140. I said it before. No point of draining yourself to rehydrate back to 147 fight night.

If PBF/PAC both fought at 140 and 147. Fight night they would weigh the same.

Hopkins fought at 160. Roy Jones fought at 175. If they had a rematch at catchweight. Hopkins would be the bigger guy regardless of RJJ fighting at a higher weight

agreed, little killer you seem well informed on fighters and fight night weights in general

i think alot of the great fighters like mayweather, pacman and RJJ can compete in weight classes that they have no buisness in. imo floyd can still very easily make 140 - not only is he a gym rat who loves training, but he is always in shape and like you said if the payday is big enough he will dehydrate himself and make the 140lb limit.

btw what was RJJ's fight night weight when he was at 175?

also out of curiosity do you think pacman is a legit 140lber? personally i think he is a genuine 135lber and a small 140lber, he can still fight at 140lb's as he is a great fighter and like i sid beforehand great fighters can compete in a weight class above their actual weight class.

[Little Killer]

Floyd CANT make 147 and the Marquez fight is proving it.. why you think he didn't want to go down? Because he can't make the weight and be healthy.
Pacquiao on the other hand can... he can still make 135 too? can floyd do that? NOPE.
Mayweather is a 147 pounder who wont fight dudes his own size. It's all gravy though, that's why Pacquiao is the best and will go down as the best of our generation and Mayweather wont. Pacquiao is not afraid to fight fighters his size and bigger.. Mayweather on the other hand is.

Floyd can't make 147. Lay off the crack pipe homes.


Mayweather can make 140. I said what is the point of draining yourself to make weight just to rehydrate back to 147. It's a pointless situation. These is a reason why Pacman wants Mosley at 142. So he can be drained.


Boxing is a sport based on weight not height or reach.

Fight nights weights
Cotto 159
Mayweather 148
Pacman 148

How on earth is Cotto closer to Floyd than Floyd is to Pacman.

Who has Pacman fought that was bigger than him??


He outweighed JMM,MAB,Morales,Diaz and Oscar

[Allucard]

no.. fight night weight is the amount of weight a fighter had enough time to rehydrate to.
It really means nothing when it comes to size as some fighters may be smaller but have a lot of body fat.. does it mean that if there is a 5'4'' fat man who is 250 pounds that he is the same size as Wladimir Klitschko?
you have to put into account a persons frame when it comes to size imo.. Mayweather is closer in size to Cotto then he is to both of these two 135ers.

lol are u confused or trying to confuse others? the man u replied to was right. some fighters dont rehydrate at all. fmj is one of them. Tha's the main reason he didn't seem to have KO power in the Oscar fight. He fought someone who weighed in at 154 and hydrated to god knows how much, very likely 160+ pounds whereas Floyd was 149 both at the weigh in and on the fight night.

[Sin City]

Floyd can't make 147. Lay off the crack pipe homes.


Mayweather can make 140. I said what is the point of draining yourself to make weight just to rehydrate back to 147. It's a pointless situation. These is a reason why Pacman wants Mosley at 142. So he can be drained.


Boxing is a sport based on weight not height or reach.

Fight nights weights
Cotto 159
Mayweather 148
Pacman 148

How on earth is Cotto closer to Floyd than Floyd is to Pacman.

Who has Pacman fought that was bigger than him??


He outweighed JMM,MAB,Morales,Diaz and Oscar

I meant to say 140. And it's always coulda, woulda, shoulda with you guys.. If he can do it then why doesn't he? because he can't! again, fight night weights don't mean **** if you can't make the weight class you are supposed to be fighting in.

that's where I think the weight system is kind of flawed though because as I said, a 5'4'' man isn't the same size as wlad no matter the weight.

[Little Killer]

agreed, little killer you seem well informed on fighters and fight night weights in general

i think alot of the great fighters like mayweather, pacman and RJJ can compete in weight classes that they have no buisness in. imo floyd can still very easily make 140 - not only is he a gym rat who loves training, but he is always in shape and like you said if the payday is big enough he will dehydrate himself and make the 140lb limit.

btw what was RJJ's fight night weight when he was at 175?

also out of curiosity do you think pacman is a legit 140lber? personally i think he is a genuine 135lber and a small 140lber, he can still fight at 140lb's as he is a great fighter and like i sid beforehand great fighters can compete in a weight class above their actual weight class.

Pacman can no longer make 135. Roach has stated this. I do believe Pacman is a legit 140 pounder. But there is a reason why Roach likes PBF over Mosley/Cotto it is because of weight. Hatton even said PBF is the only WW he could beat because he is close to him size wise.

Like James Toney said. Skills can easily overcome weight. That is why fighters like Oscar,PBF,Pac,RJJ,Hopkins can move up and down and win easily.

Fighters like Cotto/Margarito/Clottey are bounded by their skill limitations. And they need a weight advanatge.

RJJ fight night weight I forgot. Couldn't tell you. But if you watch the argument between Hopkins/RJJ. Hopkins laughed at the notion of RJJ being the bigger man.


Just because you fight at a lower weight doesn't always make you the smaller man,

[aether]

Floyd can't make 147. Lay off the crack pipe homes.


Mayweather can make 140. I said what is the point of draining yourself to make weight just to rehydrate back to 147. It's a pointless situation. These is a reason why Pacman wants Mosley at 142. So he can be drained.


Boxing is a sport based on weight not height or reach.

Fight nights weights
Cotto 159
Mayweather 148
Pacman 148

How on earth is Cotto closer to Floyd than Floyd is to Pacman.

Who has Pacman fought that was bigger than him??


He outweighed JMM,MAB,Morales,Diaz and Oscar

by your standards, ricky hatton.

oscar was the naturally bigger man but decided not to put on much weight cause people think that fight was a joke.