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  • DLT
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    Are The Pac Camp Hypocrites?

    Im not saying that they are but I got this from another site where fans write in to ask questions and the writer respods. Here was one question and response:



    William L. (Miami, FL): I'm a huge Pacquiao fan but I'm starting to see the same hypocrisy that I saw in Floyd and Oscar before him and I think it sucks because the sport continues to allow this. Am I the only one that sees these things?

    Vivek W: This is a very sensitive topic. One I was somewhat inclined to walk away from. I've been called everything from a racist, to a hater and worst, all for the simple fact that I like to call things the way I see them and the sports pound-for-pound king unfortunately isn't exempt. That being said, yes, I agree that there is total hypocrasy at times in the Pacquiao camp. A direct representative of the Pacquiao camp said within the last 24 hours that "Pacquiao doesn't have to settle for Cotto or Mosley, because he has other options, to include Chavez Jr. I'd love for someone to tell me....If Pacquiao fought Oscar at 147, and is contemplating a fight against a current 154lber who has never fought at 147 and sure as hell isn't coming down to 142 (which is Pacquiao's catch-weight of choice), how can we not call him out for trying to force Mayweather, Cotto, or Mosley down to that weight? Mayweather and Cotto have never campaigned above '47, and to really put things in a proper perspective, Floyd Mayweather HAS ONLY FOUGHT ABOVE 140 FOR TWO YEARS, WHICH EXPLAINS WHY HE HAS NEVER ENTERED THE RING ON FIGHT NIGHT ABOVE 150LBS.....EVER! So why is Pacquiao's camp calling out a 154lber but expecting someone like Mayweather who is nearly his own size to drain down? I really need a logical explination for this Pacquiao nation! Please, I'm begging someone to help me understand it! He's one of my favorite fighters to watch but that doesn't change a truth. Mayweather has nearly no body fat, so what he would be losing is muscle, which as we learned with Roy Jones jr. is a death blow. Is that what the desired result is? I'd like to say no, but Pacquiao's own advisor just stated about Cotto, "let him struggle to make weight, not us"! That says it all. I don't have a racist bone in my body but I'll "bare the cross" if it means standing up for the truth. One of us have to have integrity, so as we say in the U.S. Marine Corp, I'll lead, others can follow or simply get the hell out of the way!
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    #2
    Hmm, this 'writer' can't be too successful, considering that he seems incapable of correctly spelling certain words or using paragraphs, just like DLT. That's probably just a coincidence though...

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    • Deja_Vous
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      #3
      Originally posted by Clegg
      Hmm, this 'writer' can't be too successful, considering that he seems incapable of correctly spelling certain words or using paragraphs, just like DLT. That's probably just a coincidence though...
      That all you got???

      You can't refute what he said so you attack his spelling...LOL

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      • kadyo's
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        #4
        DLT always wants to make us read long paragraphs, he must be some english teacher lol.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Deja_Vous
          That all you got???

          You can't refute what he said so you attack his spelling...LOL
          It's more that I don't really care either way to be honest.

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          • Ray*
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            #6
            Originally posted by DLT
            Im not saying that they are but I got this from another site where fans write in to ask questions and the writer respods. Here was one question and response:



            William L. (Miami, FL): I'm a huge Pacquiao fan but I'm starting to see the same hypocrisy that I saw in Floyd and Oscar before him and I think it sucks because the sport continues to allow this. Am I the only one that sees these things?

            Vivek W: This is a very sensitive topic. One I was somewhat inclined to walk away from. I've been called everything from a racist, to a hater and worst, all for the simple fact that I like to call things the way I see them and the sports pound-for-pound king unfortunately isn't exempt. That being said, yes, I agree that there is total hypocrasy at times in the Pacquiao camp. A direct representative of the Pacquiao camp said within the last 24 hours that "Pacquiao doesn't have to settle for Cotto or Mosley, because he has other options, to include Chavez Jr. I'd love for someone to tell me....If Pacquiao fought Oscar at 147, and is contemplating a fight against a current 154lber who has never fought at 147 and sure as hell isn't coming down to 142 (which is Pacquiao's catch-weight of choice), how can we not call him out for trying to force Mayweather, Cotto, or Mosley down to that weight? Mayweather and Cotto have never campaigned above '47, and to really put things in a proper perspective, Floyd Mayweather HAS ONLY FOUGHT ABOVE 140 FOR TWO YEARS, WHICH EXPLAINS WHY HE HAS NEVER ENTERED THE RING ON FIGHT NIGHT ABOVE 150LBS.....EVER! So why is Pacquiao's camp calling out a 154lber but expecting someone like Mayweather who is nearly his own size to drain down? I really need a logical explination for this Pacquiao nation! Please, I'm begging someone to help me understand it! He's one of my favorite fighters to watch but that doesn't change a truth. Mayweather has nearly no body fat, so what he would be losing is muscle, which as we learned with Roy Jones jr. is a death blow. Is that what the desired result is? I'd like to say no, but Pacquiao's own advisor just stated about Cotto, "let him struggle to make weight, not us"! That says it all. I don't have a racist bone in my body but I'll "bare the cross" if it means standing up for the truth. One of us have to have integrity, so as we say in the U.S. Marine Corp, I'll lead, others can follow or simply get the hell out of the way!


            (1) Mayweather has officially campaign over 147 when he fought oscar at 154
            (2) Pacquiao has never said Mayweather needs to comedown to 142, That was directed towards Cotto and Mosley from Freddies roach.

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              #7
              Originally posted by raycorey


              (1) Mayweather has officially campaign over 147 when he fought oscar at 154
              (2) Pacquiao has never said Mayweather needs to comedown to 142, That was directed towards Cotto and Mosley from Freddies roach.
              I think by "campaigning" he actually means calling people out at the weight and havign more than one fight there.... the DLH fight was always going to floyds only 154lb fight, he was ridiculously small at that weight

              and i think its a really soft move on pac and freddies behalf to ask guys like cotto and mosley down to 142, absolutely ridiculous, cotto was like a corpse at 140 a few years back, and he is definitely a solid 147 lber, no way can he go lower

              and mosley has been at WW for years and has fought at 154, hes also a solid 147lber who shouldnt have to go lower

              if manny fights these guys at a bull**** catchweight they will be significantly handicapped and unable to perform at their peaks, so what would be so great about a win over either?

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                #8
                Originally posted by KostyaTszyu
                if floyd fights JMM at a bull**** catchweight he will be significantly handicapped and unable to perform at his peak, so what would be so great about a win over him?

                Agreed, good post.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by KostyaTszyu
                  I think by "campaigning" he actually means calling people out at the weight and havign more than one fight there.... the DLH fight was always going to floyds only 154lb fight, he was ridiculously small at that weight

                  and i think its a really soft move on pac and freddies behalf to ask guys like cotto and mosley down to 142, absolutely ridiculous, cotto was like a corpse at 140 a few years back, and he is definitely a solid 147 lber, no way can he go lower

                  and mosley has been at WW for years and has fought at 154, hes also a solid 147lber who shouldnt have to go lower

                  if manny fights these guys at a bull**** catchweight they will be significantly handicapped and unable to perform at their peaks, so what would be so great about a win over either?

                  I would never give Pacman any credit if he fights either or Cotto or Mosley any less than 147, Cotto i definitely know shouldnt be at 140ish because i know how he looks at that weight.

                  Mosley would have to chop off one of his foot to make 142 so they would just be a name in that ring.

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                  • Deja_Vous
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by KostyaTszyu
                    I think by "campaigning" he actually means calling people out at the weight and havign more than one fight there.... the DLH fight was always going to floyds only 154lb fight, he was ridiculously small at that weight

                    and i think its a really soft move on pac and freddies behalf to ask guys like cotto and mosley down to 142, absolutely ridiculous, cotto was like a corpse at 140 a few years back, and he is definitely a solid 147 lber, no way can he go lower

                    and mosley has been at WW for years and has fought at 154, hes also a solid 147lber who shouldnt have to go lower

                    if manny fights these guys at a bull**** catchweight they will be significantly handicapped and unable to perform at their peaks, so what would be so great about a win over either?
                    That's why Manny is no HENRY ARMSTRONG.

                    Hank didn't fight mofos at a catchweight of a drainedweight.

                    He fought them at their own weight.

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