Cotto: "Clottey, We'll See Who Has More Heart"

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  • Ravishing
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    #191
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
    I agree with you man. Clottey's power & pressure made Zab
    quit on purpose because he couldn't take it and knew he was
    in over his head. Clottey never looked hurt in the fight &
    almost dropped Zab in the 7th. The few punches Clottey
    threw hurt Zab each time
    . I always said that this fight on
    the 13th will be a test of who wants it more and will be a
    slug fest.
    That says it all. He can't fight Cotto at all like how he did with Zab. Clottey couldn't land any real flush shots and he kept leaning his head in (as seen in a good amount of his fights) and cut Zab with a headbutt. That was probably the most dramatic thing that happened in that fight.

    To beat Cotto he's gotta apply a lot of pressure, but when have you seen Clottey fight a 12rd fight totally on the offensive? Considering he hasn't KO'd anyone in years I find it hard to believe he's going to hurt Cotto who took hard shots from a fresher Zab, Mosley, and Margarito and continued to fight. What wars has Clottey been in as well? I can't recall any (Margarito vs Clottey wasn't a war either)

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      #192
      I think pressure was one of the reasons Cotto quit. Cotto is indeed
      a good fighter but against someone that he can't hurt it gets tough
      for him. Clottey's a strong durable guy. Cotto best bet would be
      to stay on the outside, use his jab and box to win by decision.
      Cotto has power but perhaps against bigger Welters it might not
      be as devastating.

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        #193
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        I think pressure was one of the reasons Cotto quit. Cotto is indeed
        a good fighter but against someone that he can't hurt it gets tough
        for him. Clottey's a strong durable guy. Cotto best bet would be
        to stay on the outside, use his jab and box to win by decision.
        Cotto has power but perhaps against bigger Welters it might not
        be as devastating.
        I think you may be overestimating Clottey based on Cotto's fight with Margarito. Clottey is much more stationary than Margarito who just keeps coming forward. Clottey also tends to lower that left hand alot when he throws along with leaning in with his head which can either give Cotto a cut or Cotto might counter with his own uppercut.

        Clottey is a strong, durable guy, but let's not totally flip the script and make it seem like Cotto has no punching power. I think that's why many people's opinions on this fight a bit flawed or maybe short term memory loss is sinking in?

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        • taino78
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          #194
          damn cotto talkin gangsta finally, he does sound a bit too confident do work and then say what u want. great fight cant wait

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            #195
            Originally posted by Ravishing
            That says it all. He can't fight Cotto at all like how he did with Zab. Clottey couldn't land any real flush shots and he kept leaning his head in (as seen in a good amount of his fights) and cut Zab with a headbutt. That was probably the most dramatic thing that happened in that fight.

            To beat Cotto he's gotta apply a lot of pressure, but when have you seen Clottey fight a 12rd fight totally on the offensive? Considering he hasn't KO'd anyone in years I find it hard to believe he's going to hurt Cotto who took hard shots from a fresher Zab, Mosley, and Margarito and continued to fight. What wars has Clottey been in as well? I can't recall any (Margarito vs Clottey wasn't a war either)
            Are you really trying to deny that Clottey didn't hit Zab and cause
            that cut? It wasn't a head butt, even Zab couldn't point it out on
            the replay. Clottey ****** out with Margarito for 12 rounds and
            took some hard shots and gave some. From reading Clottey's
            statements I honestly think he doesn't respect Cotto or fear him
            and will fight a lot more actively to get him out of there. Before
            people start saying I'm crazy for not giving Cotto mega props, I
            do think Cotto has a chance but just don't think he will win PLUS
            I bet on Clottey so I'm going all out with my pick.

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              #196
              Clottey had a much easier time with zab than cotto.

              This is not even arguable. Clottey didnt have to go S.O.S tito trinidad on judah nuts when he got hurt because judah never hurt clottey unlike cotto.

              Judah had cotto hurt at least on 2 occasions.

              Clottey was never hurt vs judah. he was in complete control.

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                #197
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                Are you really trying to deny that Clottey didn't hit Zab and cause
                that cut? It wasn't a head butt, even Zab couldn't point it out on
                the replay. Clottey ****** out with Margarito for 12 rounds and
                took some hard shots and gave some. From reading Clottey's
                statements I honestly think he doesn't respect Cotto or fear him
                and will fight a lot more actively to get him out of there. Before
                people start saying I'm crazy for not giving Cotto mega props, I
                do think Cotto has a chance but just don't think he will win PLUS
                I bet on Clottey so I'm going all out with my pick.
                Watch the entire fight, Clottey leaned in plenty of times and hit Zab in the same spot where the cut happened. Im not going to deny Clottey's punch caused the cut, but his head leaning in and butting Zab didn't help too much with that process either.

                Im not making excuses for Zab either, don't get that twisted, but overall Clottey has to have several game plans in the bag in order for him to beat Cotto. I don't think he has the stamina nor he is on the level of guys like a Shane or Cotto who can fight for 12 rounds. Clottey hasn't necessarily been the most resiliant fighter passed the 8th and 9th rounds.

                I think Cotto's skills are going to output Clottey, a real good fighter...but not at an elite level yet (or maybe ever)

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Ravishing
                  I think you may be overestimating Clottey based on Cotto's fight with Margarito. Clottey is much more stationary than Margarito who just keeps coming forward. Clottey also tends to lower that left hand alot when he throws along with leaning in with his head which can either give Cotto a cut or Cotto might counter with his own uppercut.

                  Clottey is a strong, durable guy, but let's not totally flip the script and make it seem like Cotto has no punching power. I think that's why many people's opinions on this fight a bit flawed or maybe short term memory loss is sinking in?
                  Again, Cotto has power but against a bigger stronger guy it hasn't
                  been evident that he can hurt them or stopp them even with his
                  hardest shots.........Mosley/Margarito. I think Clottey will be able
                  to take Cotto's power and remember Cotto would much rather
                  stand and trade than totally commit to boxing. Cotto/Clottey
                  is going to be exchanging punches in the middle of the ring
                  because no one will want to back down. Also if you watch
                  the Clottey/Zab fight he did apply pressure by walking forward
                  and accurately connecting on Zab. I am aware of Cotto's power
                  but if that's the case........look at it like this.........Clottey made
                  Zab fake a head butt to get out of the fight & Cotto ****** on
                  Clottey for 11 rounds.........Clottey fought Margarito to a decision
                  and Cotto quit. Not saying that it will be any easier or harder for
                  either fighter but if we have to be aware of Cotto's power than
                  be aware of Clottey's durability.

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                  • GRUSTLER
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Ravishing
                    Watch the entire fight, Clottey leaned in plenty of times and hit Zab in the same spot where the cut happened. Im not going to deny Clottey's punch caused the cut, but his head leaning in and butting Zab didn't help too much with that process either.
                    Im not making excuses for Zab either, don't get that twisted, but overall Clottey has to have several game plans in the bag in order for him to beat Cotto. I don't think he has the stamina nor he is on the level of guys like a Shane or Cotto who can fight for 12 rounds. Clottey hasn't necessarily been the most resiliant fighter passed the 8th and 9th rounds.

                    I think Cotto's skills are going to output Clottey, a real good fighter...but not at an elite level yet (or maybe ever)
                    I don't agree with that. Zab got wore out and in the replay Clottey
                    head was never actually seen ****ing on Zab's. As soon as Clottey
                    caught Zab with that upper cut, Zab touch his eye with his glove
                    and said to the referee that it was a head butt.

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                    • savorduhflavor
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                      #200
                      They showed the PUNCH that opened up the cut on Judah. It was clear as day, that cut was not caused by a butt.

                      Should have been a TKO for Clottey. Judah was on his way to getting stopped anyway, he saw an opportunity to get out of the fight early and take his chances on the cards and he took it.

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