Antonio Margarito? A coward? A cheat?

[DGP]

do you really believe cotto got a gift decision against mosley

[Ravishing]

How is that so hard to understand? are you dense? I gave you valid reasons as to why I think they felt the need to do that against Mosley, what do you have to say other than Cotto was his biggest fight and therefore he needed to cheat? Cotto has more flaws than Mosley does, Cotto got a gift decision against Mosley when they fought, Mosley is clearly the most dangerous fighter of the two, the only disadvantage was his age and therefore everyone thought Margarito was going to run through him.

hahaha...That's really reaching there, bud.

You're coming up with all sorts of excuses that conviniently throw the notion out that he cheated against Cotto. How is that so hard to fathom? Maybe because it's you're fighter's biggest win and putting the notion that he cheated throws his credibility in the sport down the toilet?

Hmmmm...seems about right. The dude's a scumbag, man.

[ShalafiV.2]

Calling me names now?

Before the fight nobody would say Mosley was more dangerous then Cotto..

EASY to say after all the fights have sorted themselves out.

BEFORE?

Cotto UNDEFEATED... and just beat Shane Mosley... Cotto was undoubtedly the toughest test in the welterweight division at the time Margarito fought him.

What? dense? you must have a pretty thin skin if you think that's an insult, go ahead and red K me for it then
I
agree, everyone thought so, Mosley had nothing left but I knew from the beginning this was a riskier fight for Tony, specially after the 11 grueling rounds he went through with Cotto only 6 months ago. I had hope that he would win it but I was more nervous when he went against Mosley than Cotto.

Cotto was tailor made for Margarito, he's got loopholes on his defense, he's prone to uppercuts (Tony's best punch), lackluster stamina and a questionable chin coming to the fight, he also likes to **** it out and doesn't know how to tie you up, plus he was the smaller guy (height-wise).

So perhaps for the casual fans and the untrained eye would think Mosley was a walkover and Cotto was the most dangerous fighter. Don't get me wrong, Cotto is a hell of a fighter even though I bash him here because of his fans but against a tough pressure fighter like Margarito that can crack, Cotto is on the disadvantage.

[Animalistic]

He is a coward and a cheat. He wanted to face all top guys because he had load gloves! Sure he called out Mayweather jr but he did it because he had load gloves. He called out Cotto because he had load gloves also. I mean he is a disgrace to the sport of boxing...what he did is worse than steroids or any form of cheating.

You think Margarito had a hard time getting big fights in his career? Wait till he comes back. Margarito is done and he will never get big fights in the future.

[THE REED]

What? dense? you must have a pretty thin skin if you think that's an insult, go ahead and red K me for it then
I
agree, everyone thought so, Mosley had nothing left but I knew from the beginning this was a riskier fight for Tony, specially after the 11 grueling rounds he went through with Cotto only 6 months ago. I had hope that he would win it but I was more nervous when he went against Mosley than Cotto.

Cotto was tailor made for Margarito, he's got loopholes on his defense, he's prone to uppercuts (Tony's best punch), lackluster stamina and a questionable chin coming to the fight, he also likes to **** it out and doesn't know how to tie you up, plus he was the smaller guy (height-wise).

So perhaps for the casual fans and the untrained eye would think Mosley was a walkover and Cotto was the most dangerous fighter. Don't get me wrong, Cotto is a hell of a fighter even though I bash him here because of his fans but against a tough pressure fighter like Margarito that can crack, Cotto is on the disadvantage.

I don't need to Red K anybody.

I think the fact that you're willing to look at every other possible scenario OTHER then the fact Margarito may have cheated in the Cotto fight, says that I'm not the dense one here, and I'm not the one reaching..

The fact that you can sit here and dissect every single scenario of why margarito WOULDNT EVER have cheated against cotto... but will NOT even entertain the SLIGHTEST idea that Cotto was his toughest test in his entire life, and he had just the same reason to cheat as he did against Mosley, I think is a bit ridiculous.

[ShalafiV.2]

hahaha...That's really reaching there, bud.

You're coming up with all sorts of excuses that conviniently throw the notion out that he cheated against Cotto. How is that so hard to fathom? Maybe because it's you're fighter's biggest win and putting the notion that he cheated throws his credibility in the sport down the toilet?

Hmmmm...seems about right. The dude's a scumbag, man.

Why are they excuses? Cotto's trainer and the Nevada commissioning was present during the hand wrapping prior to the fight, now you tell me how the hell does Nazeem can be the only trainer in boxing with the special powers to notice if a wrap has been altered but not anyone else? specially since the "chunk of plaster of paris" was so evident on Tony's wraps. C'mon man, it seems you are the one reaching for an excuse as to why Cotto lost the fight, and that's a fact.

[rizkybizness]

I don't need to Red K anybody.

I think the fact that you're willing to look at every other possible scenario OTHER then the fact Margarito may have cheated in the Cotto fight, says that I'm not the dense one here, and I'm not the one reaching..

The fact that you can sit here and dissect every single scenario of why margarito WOULDNT EVER have cheated against cotto... but will NOT even entertain the SLIGHTEST idea that Cotto was his toughest test in his entire life, and he had just the same reason to cheat as he did against Mosley, I think is a bit ridiculous.

marg didnt cheat

he was cheated

[BMWM3P]

[B but against a tough pressure fighter with bricks in his hands like Margarito, Cotto or anyone is on the disadvantage[/B].

Fixed that for you.

I know it hurts you to admit that your man cheated in the Cotto fight but reality is he did, your love for the cheater just won't let you admit it.

[THE REED]

Why are they excuses? Cotto's trainer and the Nevada commissioning was present during the hand wrapping prior to the fight, now you tell me how the hell does Nazeem can be the only trainer in boxing with the special powers to notice if a wrap has been altered but not anyone else? specially since the "chunk of plaster of paris" was so evident on Tony's wraps. C'mon man, it seems you are the one reaching for an excuse as to why Cotto lost the fight, and that's a fact.

Well the fact that the commission didnt catch it in the Molsey fight EITHER, pretty much throws your post out the window.

[ShalafiV.2]

I don't need to Red K anybody.

I think the fact that you're willing to look at every other possible scenario OTHER then the fact Margarito may have cheated in the Cotto fight, says that I'm not the dense one here, and I'm not the one reaching..

The fact that you can sit here and dissect every single scenario of why margarito WOULDNT EVER have cheated against cotto... but will NOT even entertain the SLIGHTEST idea that Cotto was his toughest test in his entire life, and he had just the same reason to cheat as he did against Mosley, I think is a bit ridiculous.

I base my assumption because prior to the Mosley fight in the 30+ fights the man has had he's never been accused to be a cheater or found any evidence that he cheated. That and the fact that from what I've seen of him seems to be a good an honest man outside the ring.

I never said Cotto wasn't a test, he is a test for any fighter at 147, I give Cotto credit but against a guy like Margarito he should of been the underdog, and like I replied to Ravishing, Cotto's uncle and the Nevada commissioner were present during Margarito's hand wraps and they all gave their OK, so therefore legally he is innocent of any wrongdoing except for people who don't want to accept facts and look for an excuse to say he's cheated his entire career which is insane to me.