Antonio Margarito? A coward? A cheat?

[ShalafiV.2]

Well the fact that the commission didnt catch it in the Molsey fight EITHER, pretty much throws your post out the window.

Yeah and I wonder how much of that is factual.

[baracuda]

i dont see him as a coward but he really cheated and is being punished for it....1 year is almost up and hope he comes back soon....another reason for floyd to retire..lol..

[Thread Stealer]

I base my assumption because prior to the Mosley fight in the 30+ fights the man has had he's never been accused to be a cheater or found any evidence that he cheated. That and the fact that from what I've seen of him seems to be a good an honest man outside the ring.

Luis Resto wasn't accused of being a cheater before Billy Collins.

James Toney had never had any evidence of being a cheater before John Ruiz.

He "seems to be an honest man outside the ring"??

What is that supposed to prove? In this day and age, people still put all this much emphasis on public image?

Hell, people tell me that Mark McGwire and Luis Resto are nice people. Shane Mosley is known as a nice person.

So what.

[ShalafiV.2]

Luis Resto wasn't accused of being a cheater before Billy Collins.

James Toney had never had any evidence of being a cheater before John Ruiz.

He "seems to be an honest man outside the ring"??

What is that supposed to prove? In this day and age, people still put all this much emphasis on public image?

Hell, people tell me that Mark McGwire and Luis Resto are nice people. Shane Mosley is known as a nice person.

So what.

I'm speaking about myself, not you or anyone else.

[PotShot187]

First of all, I just wanna say, I ain't trying to justify Margs attempt to cheat against Mosley. Just before anyone thinks that.

Anyway, before the Mosley fight, he was respected, a man who once fought fully grown men as a boy, a man who would walk through hell to get to you, a man who would never give up, a real all heart warrior. Then, we find out he cheated, and that all goes. Now, fair enough... what he tried to do was bad, but still, don't you find it funny,

A man who would load his gloves to win, would be the same boy who fought fully grown men at the age of 16... a man who came out for the 9th round against Mosley knowing that he would be stopped, but still fighting on.

I still have some respect for Antonio Margarito, he still is a tough guy, he still has heart, I still respect his will of iron, his granite chin... the dude is tough, and he did it the hard way most of his career. Just because he tried to cheat once, doesn't mean we should trash his entire career. Plaster in his gloves didn't help him walk through the punches of huge hitters like Cotto and Cintron, he still showed a great chin against Mosley... how many guys would've lasted that long against such sustained punishment?

I ain't a big fan of Tony, I ain't tryin' to justify him cheating.. but, don't just hate because it's popular to do so. Think about it...

Would a coward have came out for the 9th round?

I will hate him all I want. He cheated. Plain and simple!

And then he wants to insult the fans by telling us he was totally cluecless about the plaster. He took a mans 0 by cheating. He had an unfair advantage. They took his bricks away and he became nothing more than a human punching bag who had a ****** smile on his face while he was getting knocked out and getting up. The man enjoys pain and he should be fighting in MMA he would do a lot better since he enjoys pain so much.

[THE REED]

I base my assumption because prior to the Mosley fight in the 30+ fights the man has had he's never been accused to be a cheater or found any evidence that he cheated. That and the fact that from what I've seen of him seems to be a good an honest man outside the ring.

So he's innocent because he never did it before?

Anyone who has ever cheated before, has a first time in doing so.

That means absolutely nothing...

I never said Cotto wasn't a test, he is a test for any fighter at 147, I give Cotto credit but against a guy like Margarito he should of been the underdog, and like I replied to Ravishing, Cotto's uncle and the Nevada commissioner were present during Margarito's hand wraps and they all gave their OK, so therefore legally he is innocent of any wrongdoing except for people who don't want to accept facts and look for an excuse to say he's cheated his entire career which is insane to me.

Sounds like you are trying to go the technical route now... "technically" "legally" he is innocent in the Cotto fight...

Like I said, whatever makes you feel better..

[BMWM3P]

Why are they excuses? Cotto's trainer and the Nevada commissioning was present during the hand wrapping prior to the fight, now you tell me how the hell does Nazeem can be the only trainer in boxing with the special powers to notice if a wrap has been altered but not anyone else? specially since the "chunk of plaster of paris" was so evident on Tony's wraps. C'mon man, it seems you are the one reaching for an excuse as to why Cotto lost the fight, and that's a fact.

This ***** just won't let go. How conviniently you forget to mention the fact that the California commision had alredy signed off on one of his wraps. At this level of professional boxing you're not expecting anyone to put plaster in their wraps and there's a trust issue involved. Nazeem checks everyones wraps and this is part of his gameplan, that's the only reason why he found the plaster.

But all of this won't matter to a nuthugger like you because all you're looking for is excuses to try to fool yourself into believing that Plasterito would never have tried to cheat in the Cotto fight. It's funny to see you reaching and coming up with all kinds of ridiculous excuses it's just cementing your status as the biggest Plasterito nutthuger of them all.

[PotShot187]

Why are they excuses? Cotto's trainer and the Nevada commissioning was present during the hand wrapping prior to the fight, now you tell me how the hell does Nazeem can be the only trainer in boxing with the special powers to notice if a wrap has been altered but not anyone else? specially since the "chunk of plaster of paris" was so evident on Tony's wraps. C'mon man, it seems you are the one reaching for an excuse as to why Cotto lost the fight, and that's a fact.

Did it ever occur to you bonehead, that the commsion was not doing their job? Evangelista said he dropped the ball, he put too much trust in the commision and he sent one of his flunkies out to check tonys wraps, the plaster was not evident bone head they were concealed and under all the wrap. It's not as though C****tillo was making a formal announcement "HEY I AM CONCEALING THE BRICKS NOW" No, he did it on the sly and later said he grabbed the wrong ones, but the bricks he was using had blood on them so he was using the bricks on other people? Sparring parters? Other fights? Of course he was dummy and that is why they had BLOOD on them.

[THE REED]

did it ever occur to you bonehead, that the commsion was not doing their job? Evangelista said he dropped the ball, he put too much trust in the commision and he sent one of his flunkies out to check tonys wraps, the plaster was not evident bone head they were concealed and under all the wrap. it's not as though c****tillo was making a formal announcement "hey i am concealing the bricks now" no, he did it on the sly and later said he grabbed the wrong ones, but the bricks he was using had blood on them so he was using the bricks on other people? Sparring parters? Other fights? Of course he was dummy and that is why they had blood on them.

lolllllllllll

[ShalafiV.2]

Why do I even bother posting in this place is beyond me, I must be sadistic, I can't make anyone believe other wise, I stated my opinion and some facts about the Cotto and Mosley fights but they all get washed up as nuthuggery by the morons. Agree to disagree I guess.