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  • Verstyle
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    #11
    Money talks, you'd do the same in their shoes too I bet.

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    • miamijohn
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      #12
      Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
      The benefits of having the elite fighters meeting at a catch weights is that the fans get great match-ups instead of fighters just always staying in their division even when that division lacks another big name or big money fighter. As long as the fans keep demanding that superstars in different weight classes fight, a catch weight is the only way to fairly do this.

      The alphabet titles have become a joke so fighting for one has become almost meaningless because of their ABC's ridiculous rules and corruption in their rankings. The fighter makes the title not the other way around and the alphabets need to remember that!
      What about the other fighters who clearly are in the division...Who can make weight and train to do it and dont have to move up or down and want to unify the division but have to wait bcause the top guy runs up or down to fight someone in another division. Say the top guy loses...Now IN THE FANS EYES...he must go up or down to fight this guy because he beat the top guy in his division. Why fight the Xtop guy now? Its ALL BULL****..... DOnt do **** but messes up whats been here for years. Boxing has enough **** to clean up. But yet we get to see TWO guys rake in lots of money. Thats what its all about...

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        #13
        Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
        The benefits of having the elite fighters meeting at a catch weights is that the fans get great match-ups instead of fighters just always staying in their division even when that division lacks another big name or big money fighter. As long as the fans keep demanding that superstars in different weight classes fight, a catch weight is the only way to fairly do this.

        The alphabet titles have become a joke so fighting for one has become almost meaningless because of their ABC's ridiculous rules and corruption in their rankings. The fighter makes the title not the other way around and the alphabets need to remember that!
        Good post, karma coming your way.

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        • PittyPat
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          #14
          I don't acknowledge catchweights. As far as I'm concerned, Floyd and JMM are fighting at welterweight. End of.

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          • miamijohn
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            #15
            Originally posted by VERSATILE2K9
            Money talks, you'd do the same in their shoes too I bet.
            Thats hitting the nail on the head. It is all about the money...Whos gonna turn down millions to fight for Thousands!

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            • Kris Silver
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              #16
              A thread begun from some spontaenous rage without thought or due research, just impulse.

              Who'd have thought.

              Look, Jonny Rebel explained clearly enough above and you still argued. Pavlik-Taylor 2, what was the point in it being at 160, it was the winner that meant the most. It also meant they didn't kill themselves to get to 160, they were the top boys, fight where's more comfortable and quickly, great.

              Same goes for Abraham Miranda 2. Pac Mayweather/Cotto/Mosley simply would not happen unless it was a catch weight in all likelyhood. So yes, why it's great generalising saying belts mean the world, which they increasingly do not, all of these fights underline why catch weights can be good.

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              • Iceta
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                #17
                Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
                The benefits of having the elite fighters meeting at a catch weights is that the fans get great match-ups instead of fighters just always staying in their division even when that division lacks another big name or big money fighter. As long as the fans keep demanding that superstars in different weight classes fight, a catch weight is the only way to fairly do this.



                The alphabet titles have become a joke so fighting for one has become almost meaningless because of their ABC's ridiculous rules and corruption in their rankings. The fighter makes the title not the other way around and the alphabets need to remember that!
                Yeah, you got a point I suppose. I'm all for hanging out those sanctioning body crooks out to dry. But a lot of times catchweight fights can be bull**** fights by the same token. A good example of that is Pavlik-Hopkins. Pavlik got money-hungry and went after an old man and it back fired on him. And how ****** is it to lose a fight and still be considered a champion. In my opinion, catchweight fights cause confusion to boxing fans just like multiple titles. A lot of times two fighters will meet at a catchweight without having fought the best fighters in their respective divisions. Now as far as the Mayweather-Marquez fight, casual boxing fans will be clueless about what these guys are really fighting for besides bragging rights because their is no title on the line. But I'll be ordering it because Marquez is showing some big balls for moving up that much. He also beat who was put in front of him at 135. Mayweather on the other hand has been allergic to fighting elite fighters in his own division.

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                • freedom213
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MR ITALIAN
                  Manny Cotto Mayweather JMM Mosley and so on Should fight at there weight for title or DONT fucckin fight!!!! Whats the use in having a weight Class?
                  So true catch weights are simply an excuse waiting to take down the legitimacy of a victory. If you can't fight at a weight dont fight there.

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                  • Cadillac Man
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                    #19
                    There already is ENOUGH weight class and champions. Catchweights are BAD for the sport. Fight in your divison and clean out the divison,unify titles then u are the real champion of that weight classes not fighting the weakest link at a weight class and then calling yourself a chamipon.

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                    • Johnny Rebel
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by miamijohn
                      What about the other fighters who clearly are in the division...Who can make weight and train to do it and dont have to move up or down and want to unify the division but have to wait bcause the top guy runs up or down to fight someone in another division. Say the top guy loses...Now IN THE FANS EYES...he must go up or down to fight this guy because he beat the top guy in his division. Why fight the Xtop guy now? Its ALL BULL****..... DOnt do **** but messes up whats been here for years. Boxing has enough **** to clean up. But yet we get to see TWO guys rake in lots of money. Thats what its all about...
                      The fighters who fight at catch weights usually give up their titles so the other fighters will have the opportunity to claim them and make a name for themselves. Most catch weight fights are between 2 guys who wouldn't otherwise fight making a super-fight for fans, or are at the end of there careers and looking for the biggest paydays and names. I do agree that it's unfair fighting at a catchweight for guys that can't or won't make weight.

                      What about so many ridiculous mandatories that the ABC's impose? Mandatory fights prevent the top fighters from facing off WAY more often then a catcweight fight. Any unified champion would have a near impossible time fighting the mandatory of 4 orgs who's rankings vary so much.

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