The Weight Will Be The Ultimate Demise of Juan Manuel Marquez

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  • King Cotto
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    The Weight Will Be The Ultimate Demise of Juan Manuel Marquez

    The weight is going to be the ultimate demise of JMM in this battle.

    I totally agree marquez isnt fast, strong, athletic or as much as a natural as Floyd and manny are. But the fact that Juan is essentially a bloated featherweight who was able to move up to 130-135 and not only beat but ko fighters who out gun him in every way shape and form is a testament to his personal greatness.

    Marquez will never be as explosive as Manny or slick and graceful as floyd. But dont think for one second Juan is any less of a virtuoso. Marquez simply put, is this generations Alexis Arguello. A classy boxer who is well rounded in every aspect of the sweet science. His greatness rest in the fact that he is solid in every area of the game but STELLER in precise timing. He does not make mistakes.

    The man is a swiss watch and operates in milliseconds. Ive seen him live in action 3 times and its really a sight to see.

    Much like Aguello though his days are numbered @ 140 + Simply put he dosent have the fame to support the added weight. Body types are different and we as the fans need to expect/respect that.

    Floyd was always a big jr.lightweight (a weight marquez just recently invaded) and i remember watching him blow out Genaro Hernandez thinking that he had the shoulders, legs, reach and height to carry up to 147 pounds and still be brilliant.

    Marquez will not look good with the added weight. Manny is a genetic freak and has some how not lost a beat while skipping divisions. But sadly the same can not be said for marquez.

    At feather he was perfect blend of everything that makes a fantastic fighter. At 135 he looks too flat footed and is getting hit by shots he shouldnt be getting hit with . The weight/being 36 is not mixing well with his body type and he is slowing down . The diaz fight is the perfect example of a fighter who is loosing his step but still has the god given smarts to beat a good fighter. JMM is already in decline and the wild thing is not any of you really see it.

    Diaz clipped JMM in the first round and pushed him back..If diaz had decent pop Juan would have been iced.

    This fight is a mismatch and floyd is a snake for fattening up a magnificent little man and using him as a warm up to the manny pac pay day. Come on people Juan shouldnt have to skip 2 weight classes and sign up for a fight he will not win to try to goad manny into a rubber match.

    Juan is a class act and world class fighter who has earned a 3rd fight with pac. The term pound for pound is a hypothetical term used to give the following scenario

    If fighter ______(given his current skill set and abilities) was a natural ______ ( weight class) He would beat ______________

    The term should not be taken literal and the Lightweight champion of the world (career feather weight/ horrible physical attributes) should not have to take a fight were nothing is in his favor just to prove to us fans he is not only good but GREAT.
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    Dude whatever. Juan Marquez called Floyd Mayweather out. You forgot to add that to your above manifesto.

    I don't remember hearing Floyd (while in retirement) call Juan Marquez out. Do you?

    Juan like Ricky Hatton called Floyd out and now they're going to fight at a catchweight. It's that simple.

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    • MANGLER
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      We know this already TS.

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      • COACH WEBB
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        should not have to take a fight were nothing is in his favor just to prove to us fans he is not only good but GREAT.
        it kills me how MOST sports writers feel this way..but the GUY THAT WILL ACTUALLY FIGHT on July 18th HAS NOT COMPLAINED..................ONCE!

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        • DLT
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          #5
          Originally posted by King Cotto
          The weight is going to be the ultimate demise of JMM in this battle.

          I totally agree marquez isnt fast, strong, athletic or as much as a natural as Floyd and manny are. But the fact that Juan is essentially a bloated featherweight who was able to move up to 130-135 and not only beat but ko fighters who out gun him in every way shape and form is a testament to his personal greatness.

          Marquez will never be as explosive as Manny or slick and graceful as floyd. But dont think for one second Juan is any less of a virtuoso. Marquez simply put, is this generations Alexis Arguello. A classy boxer who is well rounded in every aspect of the sweet science. His greatness rest in the fact that he is solid in every area of the game but STELLER in precise timing. He does not make mistakes.

          The man is a swiss watch and operates in milliseconds. Ive seen him live in action 3 times and its really a sight to see.

          Much like Aguello though his days are numbered @ 140 + Simply put he dosent have the fame to support the added weight. Body types are different and we as the fans need to expect/respect that.

          Floyd was always a big jr.lightweight (a weight marquez just recently invaded) and i remember watching him blow out Genaro Hernandez thinking that he had the shoulders, legs, reach and height to carry up to 147 pounds and still be brilliant.

          Marquez will not look good with the added weight. Manny is a genetic freak and has some how not lost a beat while skipping divisions. But sadly the same can not be said for marquez.

          At feather he was perfect blend of everything that makes a fantastic fighter. At 135 he looks too flat footed and is getting hit by shots he shouldnt be getting hit with . The weight/being 36 is not mixing well with his body type and he is slowing down . The diaz fight is the perfect example of a fighter who is loosing his step but still has the god given smarts to beat a good fighter. JMM is already in decline and the wild thing is not any of you really see it.

          Diaz clipped JMM in the first round and pushed him back..If diaz had decent pop Juan would have been iced.

          This fight is a mismatch and floyd is a snake for fattening up a magnificent little man and using him as a warm up to the manny pac pay day. Come on people Juan shouldnt have to skip 2 weight classes and sign up for a fight he will not win to try to goad manny into a rubber match.

          Juan is a class act and world class fighter who has earned a 3rd fight with pac. The term pound for pound is a hypothetical term used to give the following scenario

          If fighter ______(given his current skill set and abilities) was a natural ______ ( weight class) He would beat ______________

          The term should not be taken literal and the Lightweight champion of the world (career feather weight/ horrible physical attributes) should not have to take a fight were nothing is in his favor just to prove to us fans he is not only good but GREAT.
          This thread is so dumb. JMM is a blown up FW but Floyd isnt a blown up SFW? They started 1 weight class apart and its not like Floyd moved up because he's some huge monster. He only moved up to chase the big money Oscar fight. He wasnt a big guy. I can pull up 15 articles after the Castillo & Sosa fight where so many of the media said that Floyd doesnt have the body to move up and will never be able to go to WW or will be crap there. He was solid at 130 but he's been P4P the smallest man in boxing ever since. At LW he came into the ring at 139, at 140 he came into the ring at 144, at WW he's come into the ring at 146-148, and at 154 he came into the ring at 148. Stop acting like he is this huge monster compared to JMM and stop acting like JMM just didnt KO the 2 best LW's in the world and wasnt moving up anyways. People just want to hate on Floyd. Floyd is easily much closer to JMM then he is to Clottey, Margarito, Williams, and Cotto. Just look at what these guys weigh in the ring.

          So what Diaz pushed JMM back. He wouldve done that at any weight because thats his style. JMM didnt care about that because he knew he could easily counter him in between that. Floyd is the smallest guy in boxing and the numbers prove it. I cant beleieve how everyone overlooks that. Just go look at his weights during fights. Theyre isnt 1 person in boxing who is doing what he is doing. People want to dispute everything but the numbers dont lie. Floyd cant fight JMM but your boy Cotto can fight Pac, right? Come on now. If JMM called out Cotto right now then I bet anything in the world that Cotto would fight him and you know it. I didnt see you complaining when Cotto was at 140 coming into the ring 15 pounds bigger then guys and making everyone look like little boys and he's crushing theyre body with every shot. No crying then but you want to cry now

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            Originally posted by Michael Hall
            Dude whatever. Juan Marquez called Floyd Mayweather out. You forgot to add that to your above manifesto.

            I don't remember hearing Floyd (while in retirement) call Juan Marquez out. Do you?

            Juan like Ricky Hatton called Floyd out and now they're going to fight at a catchweight. It's that simple.
            mosley called out mayweather too. floyd must have selective hearing.

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            • ThunderWolf
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              #7
              Originally posted by King Cotto
              The Weight Will Be The Ultimate Demise of Juan Manuel Marquez.
              If JMM by any chance wins it, the rust issue will also be the ultimate demise of the legacy and future fights of PBF. Pac is near retirement and it may be Pac vs Cotto then Pac vs JMM3.

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              • King Cotto
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                #8
                Originally posted by V. WEBB JR.
                it kills me how MOST sports writers feel this way..but the GUY THAT WILL ACTUALLY FIGHT on July 18th HAS NOT COMPLAINED..................ONCE!
                I would like your signature if there were ever a chance of it actually happening.

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                • COACH WEBB
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by King Cotto
                  I would like your signature if there were ever a chance of it actually happening.
                  well...save that comment since it "wont" happen in your eyes.

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                  • King Cotto
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                    #10
                    Your boy Floyd came back to fight children. Not top dogs.

                    His hit list is bogus. You know it. I know it.

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