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These are the REASONS why FLOYD is fighting JMM now and not Pac.

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  • #21
    Originally posted by boojee View Post
    No, the reason he is fighting JMM is because he is scared ****less of the legit WW.
    CO sigN!!!!!!

    If he wanted a tune, WWs are available.

    If he is back, because JMM called him out, well, Mosley, Margarito called him out. Cotto expressed interest, and ect,ect,ect.

    If he is back for the money, Pacquiao is the one.

    FLoyd is a ***** for fighting JMM at 147, period!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
      CO sigN!!!!!!

      If he wanted a tune, WWs are available.

      If he is back, because JMM called him out, well, Mosley, Margarito called him out. Cotto expressed interest, and ect,ect,ect.

      If he is back for the money, Pacquiao is the one.

      FLoyd is a ***** for fighting JMM at 147, period!!!!!!!!!!!
      Co-sign!
      People want him to fight a legit WWs not those midgets who moving up that he has all the every possible advantages.

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      • #23
        thats a quick way too escape WW. and focus on money and easy fights.

        pac is lb 4 lb #1. PBF now's back he prefer himself the the king he cant

        accept pac be the #1. now he will take out a much smaller jmm, where pac

        have some difficulties with.

        but the problem is when pac is going up weights. pac is evolving.

        pac is very different in every weight class.

        do you see jmm vs diaz, jmm got good beating by diaz and when the ends

        comes he got good punches makes diaz fades. jmm is getting older by a year

        and he got a very very difficult each fight he got.

        PBF is speedy in his lower weights. but when he's going up he's not that the

        same 130 pounder before but he maintain his timing, accuracy and

        develop good defense but not that speedy.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
          He knocked him down 3 times only for marquez to come back and make the fight a draw, honestly, thats nothing to write home about. Fact is, marquez has suffered 4 knockdowns from pac, but hes also won far more rounds against him. If mayweather schools him and knocks him out, something pac could never do, that means something weather you like it or not, thats bennys point
          At WELTERWEIGHT? And with JMM's previous outing at lightweight? LOL...

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          • #25
            I believe that PBF wants to slowly acclimate back into boxing and does not want to tangle with the most ferocious fighter he will ever face in his boxing career. A defeat at the hands of the true Pound-for-Pound King (Pacman) at this point of his return to boxing will be a humbling experience for Mayweather not to mention a very embarrassing one at that. JAT


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            • #26
              Originally posted by Jose Rizal View Post
              At WELTERWEIGHT? And with JMM's previous outing at lightweight? LOL...
              yea, thats so hilarious! especially when pac shows up at fight time at 147 lbs, which is EXACTLY what floyd will show up as, not to mention, the fight has OFFICIALLY been agreed to be 144, OMG, thats so ****in funny when pac signs for a fight at 130 and shows up at 147! isnt that ****in hilarious now that floyd may actually do the same! ****in LOL MAN.!!!

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              • #27
                Floyd would have been out 20mnths and Pac would just have fought if the fight was made for fall.

                Mayweather has every right to take a fight in between.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
                  yea, thats so hilarious! especially when pac shows up at fight time at 147 lbs, which is EXACTLY what floyd will show up as, not to mention, the fight has OFFICIALLY been agreed to be 144, OMG, thats so ****in funny when pac signs for a fight at 130 and shows up at 147! isnt that ****in hilarious now that floyd may actually do the same! ****in LOL MAN.!!!
                  A big LOL how you can't seem to understand the simple concept of weight divisions.

                  Just to try to be more factual, Pac was actually145 coming into the ring, not 147. Marquez was 141. Pac made it officially at 129. That means he rehydrated 16 lbs back up since the weigh-in. JMM added 11 from 130.

                  Even before the rematch was being proposed, Pac already announced his intentions to move up to135 because he was becoming too weak trying to make 130. He only agreed to one last fight at 130 when JMM suddenly showed some interest after 4 years. Looking at the weight gain of 16 lbs., it was clear Pac had already outgrown super feather at that time.

                  Floyd is sitting pretty at 147. He doesn't have to drain back down to 130 like Pac and JMM did for their 2nd fight. They fought each other as legit super featherweights for the mere fact the made the effort to make 130 and have been fighting in the same division for a while. It didn't matter if Pac was close to Floyd's current fighting weight on fight night. Floyd didn't have to drain to 130 like Pac and JMM did.

                  Floyd has already grown into 147 and he's already proven that he's strong enough to fight OTHER LEGIT WELTERS in his division of choice while not having to bloat up above 150. Despite this, he is a legit welter, whether he and his fans deny it or not, and he doesn't have to drain too much to make the contractual weight on July 18.

                  You might say JMM doesn't have to drain at 147 either, but the point was that Pac fought him on even terms, as a super featherweight, whereas JMM hasn't even fought a 140-pounder before, let alone a top welter like Floyd. He's basically inexperienced as far as fighting opponents above 135. That seems to be the reality you guys can't accept.

                  So yeah... it's ***in hilarious that some people are actually thinking Floyd one-ups Pac for possibly dominating or even stopping a NOOB WELTER.
                  Last edited by Jose Rizal; 05-21-2009, 03:36 AM.

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                  • #29
                    el jesus, jose rizal just check hook'd you

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                    • #30
                      A big LOL how you can't seem to understand the simple concept of weight divisions.
                      Is that so?

                      Even before the rematch was being proposed, Pac already announced his intentions to move up to135 because he was becoming too weak trying to make 130. He only agreed to one last fight at 130 when JMM suddenly showed some interest after 4 years. Looking at the weight gain of 16 lbs., it was clear Pac had already outgrown super feather at that time.
                      JMM didint "suddenly" show interest, he was always interested, but he wanted the right money. Looking at the weight gain of 16 lbs, he was clearly taking advantage of the fact that he could make 130 one last time and come in 1lbs shy of ****ing welterweight. I dont have a problem with it really, but im not going to sit there and pretend like pac is this small, undersized superfeather, rehydrating 16 lbs, its clear he isnt.

                      Floyd is sitting pretty at 147. He doesn't have to drain back down to 130 like Pac and JMM did for their 2nd fight. They fought each other as legit super featherweights for the mere fact the made the effort to make 130 and have been fighting in the same division for a while. It didn't matter if Pac was close to Floyd's current fighting weight on fight night. Floyd didn't have to drain to 130 like Pac and JMM did.
                      Floyd doesnt drain because hes one of the few fighters in the modern era (30 years) that doesnt try to take advantage of the system. He fights where he fights and actually take care of himself by fighting and moving up in a systematic fashion that keeps him healthy. If these guys actually fought at the classes they belonged in, instead of drying out to try to get a upper hand in a smaller division, they wouldnt have to dry out. Floyd hardly ever comes in over 1 or 2 lbs above the division hes in. I dont see how this is even a point.

                      Floyd has already grown into 147 and he's already proven that he's strong enough to fight OTHER LEGIT WELTERS in his division of choice while not having to bloat up above 150. Despite this, he is a legit welter, whether he and his fans deny it or not, and he doesn't have to drain too much to make the contractual weight on July 18.
                      Pac is also a legit welter by that standard having had a fight AT welterweight and winning in complete fashion, all the while challanging other welters to play the drain game with him at these 144/145/142 catchweights. Floyd DOES NOT DRAIN. He stays in shape and fights at the weight he desires. Other "legit" welters dont do this, guys like clottey drain to 147 and come in at 170, cotto drains to 147 and comes in at 158/160 etc.

                      You might say JMM doesn't have to drain at 147 either, but the point was that Pac fought him on even terms, as a super featherweight, whereas JMM hasn't even fought a 140-pounder before, let alone a top welter like Floyd. He's basically inexperienced as far as fighting opponents above 135. That seems to be the reality you guys can't accept.
                      What does it matter if hes had a fight over 135 or not when the agreed to terms are officially 144, 4 lbs above the weight he planned on chasing pac anyway regardless. The thing is, Floyd and JMM arent going to play games on the scales, they are going to come in at the weight they both feel comfortable at. K-Nan already pointed out what me and several others have pointed out the last couple of weeks. Marquez will likely come in fight night at 145/146 and floyd likely around 146/147. Marquez also came in at 141 against diaz. so essentially, hes moving up to face a guy who started his career at 130, and who comes in at 147 on fight night, and marquez himself will be around the same weight.

                      The point is marquez was going to move up and chase pac to 140, fighting floyd at and considering marquez KNEW hed be risking having to come in past lightweight to get a fight with floyd, am i supposed to having faux outrage over a 2 or 3 lb difference on fight night?

                      Marquez was going to move up NO MATTER WHAT. Floyd or not, marquez is definately fighting floyd on even terms because even if this fight was at 140, marquez would still come in at 144/145 while mayweather would come in at the same, 146/147 he always comes in as. The difference in this fight is nobody is going to play "who will have to work the hardest to lose weight and put it back on"

                      If pac was fighting marquez on "even terms" hed never outweigh him on fight night. Putting on 16 damn lbs the next day isnt even at all.


                      So yeah... it's ***in hilarious that some people are actually thinking Floyd one-ups Pac for possibly dominating or even stopping a NOOB WELTER.
                      He does. In the same way everyone feels pac had on upped floyd by fighting his leftovers. Thats how it works, its a "what have you done for me lately sport".

                      Again, even if this fight was at 130 back in 1999, floyd would still be seen as the bigger guy, even though marquez started at 126. 4lb difference in where they began as fighters. 4 lbs. Floyd moved up, your right, but marquez also had plans to move up. they arent that far apart. Having a fight above 135 doesnt mean much if NEITHER floyd nor marquez needs to dry out and then stick on 15 lbs, they are what, one inch apart, and will be just a couple lbs difference between each other.

                      You can believe whatever you want, yes, floyd is the bigger guy, but not by much and hell be no bigger than pac when pac showed up to fight DLH and Hatton.

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