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  • THE REED
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    #31
    Originally posted by savorduhflavor
    That's what I'm sayin. If Floyd throws combos against Marquez on the ropes, and Marquez just fires back, Floyd's superior speed and accuracy is gonna get Marquez in trouble. In that situation Marquez SHOULD clinch, but he fights fire with fire and he won't. That's the problem I see for him in this fight.
    IMO Marquez's only chance is to throw when Floyd throws

    What do you want him to do? stand there and try to outbox floyd?

    He needs to punch when Floyd punches... Timing.

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    • Kevin Jesus
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      #32
      I don't know why but I envision Marquez getting Gatti'd while awaiting to counter but Floyd will be pot shotting with jabs to the body and staying outside while also identifying Marquez movements to time when to start throwing his straight right hands, thus staying at bay in the early rounds. Then unloading right hands while avoiding Marquez' counters.

      As for Marquez, it's easier said than done but he's gonna have to time Floyd's in and out movement, Marquez is gonna have to let Floyd come to him because he is the better counter puncher, Marquez is. Thing is, when you let Floyd take the fight to you, the fight usually ends in TKO or corner stoppage because of the fighters inability to defend against Floyd's perfectly timed right hands to the head, and Floyd not being there to get hit or countered.

      Marquez has the tools, but is he fast enough to catch Floyd while he's in his pot shotting rhythm? It's gonna be an interesting fight between two chess-type boxers with one having the better defense and the other having the better counter moves.
      Last edited by Kevin Jesus; 05-20-2009, 03:14 PM.

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      • savorduhflavor
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        #33
        What I'm saying, is that when Marquez is out of his comfort zone, or if he gets a little shook by his opponent, his instinct is to fire back. And sometimes when he fires back, he gets wild. I'm saying if he does that against Floyd, he's going to get knocked out. If he gets hurt, or caught up on the ropes, he needs to clinch instead of just fire back.

        We hear so much about Marquez's countering ability, and it is great, but Floyd's a great counterpuncher himself. If Marquez throws like that, Floyd's gonna hit him clean way too much.

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        • m00ks
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          #34
          Marquez arsenal? Complete. Perfect style and skillset to beat Floyd....if only he was 10 pounds heavier and 10 years younger.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
            I don't know why but I envision Marquez getting Gatti'd while awaiting to counter but Floyd will be pot shotting with jabs to the body and staying outside while also identifying Marquez movements to time when to start throwing his straight right hands, thus staying at bay in the early rounds. Then unloading right hands while avoiding Marquez' counters.

            As for Marquez, it's easier said than done but he's gonna have to time Floyd's in and out movement, Marquez is gonna have to let Floyd come to him because he is the better counter puncher, Marquez is. Thing is, when you let Floyd take the fight to you, the fight usually ends in TKO or corner stoppage because of the fighters inability to defend against Floyd's perfectly timed right hands to the head, and Floyd not being there to get hit or countered.

            Marquez has the tools, but is he fast enough to catch Floyd while he's in his pot shotting rhythm? It's gonna be an interesting fight between two chess-type boxers with one having the better defense and the other having the better counter moves.

            Gatti just stands there while getting punched, he tries to do his half assed version of the shoulder roll and seemingly makes it worse for himself...

            Marquez fires back when being punched at

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              #36
              someone answer post #25

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                #37
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                Gatti just stands there while getting punched, he tries to do his half assed version of the shoulder roll and seemingly makes it worse for himself...

                Marquez fires back when being punched at
                LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

                ive thougth that before to (watching gatti geting gattid, tryin to "shoulder roll" )

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                • street bully
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  someone answer post #25
                  I don`t think so. I think marquez was better at 130 than 135. I only think he was so aggressive because he wanted to go for knockouts and terrorize manny some more.

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                  • Kevin Jesus
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    Gatti just stands there while getting punched, he tries to do his half assed version of the shoulder roll and seemingly makes it worse for himself...

                    Marquez fires back when being punched at
                    Lol Yeah, I meant like, will Marquez look Gatti-like because of his inability to catch Floyd with counters? you know what I mean?
                    Marquez gets hit a lot, we know that much. Marquez is no speed demon with his hands, so i'm curious to see how he would cope with Floyd disappearing when he tries countering. Will he look like a sitting duck, who actually throws punches?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      IMO Marquez's only chance is to throw when Floyd throws

                      What do you want him to do? stand there and try to outbox floyd?

                      He needs to punch when Floyd punches... Timing.
                      And I agree.

                      But that Mexican Warrior comes out in him when he's hurt, or feels uncomfortable, and he doesn't throw back in a smart way, he gets wild.

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