Best Boxing Country

[jabsRstiff]

your new additions i totally agree with. they are true greats. but i still don't and prolly never will consider b-hop, who i really like, and rjj among the greatest. sure they are very talented and have good boxing skills but to me just not on the greatest level. of those two i would say b-hop before i would rjj.

Compare Hopkins' resume to Roy's & tell me how Hop is greater ?
I love Hopkins, am a big fan, while never being one to root for Roy. But, I think Roy accomplished a lot more.....& don't forget who won their actual fight.

[pinkpanther]

I don't understand how the population of a nation factors in here.
Did you ever think the reason there's a higher ratio of Puerto Rican boxers vs. Americans is because people in the USA have so many more OPTIONS in life ?
The fact is....the majority of history's best fighters have come from the United States.

BIG PAPPY.....
You don't consider Pernell Whitaker an all-time great ?
Get the **** outta here, kid. That's ridculous.

How hard can this be to understand, the more people there are then the more talent you have to choose from. Its not rocket science.

Again the reason for the majority of the best boxers coming from the United States is becuase there are far more boxers boxing from the United States than any other country. Unfortunately this is a fact. If you were to look at all boxers with pro licences in the world the largest number would bew from the US - it's not difficult, although I do understand the point your trying to make about options in the US compared to those particually in South America.

[DR. FREECLOUD]

Compare Hopkins' resume to Roy's & tell me how Hop is greater ?
I love Hopkins, am a big fan, while never being one to root for Roy. But, I think Roy accomplished a lot more.....& don't forget who won their actual fight.

true roy beat hopkins early in thier careers. resume wise i don't see where jones faught very many that are, were, or shll be regarded as top tier opponents. hopkins, who at an older age i might add, has defeted some top tier guys. somewhere on one of the threads someone made mention that b-hop didn't even break a sweat against trinidad. well he did. but i never saw him winded or out of breath the whole fight. he to me is a true champion because he trains for the best and the worst. mentally b-hop has my respect. what did roy accomplish? true maybe it was his bad luck that his competition was never that great. jabs i respect your opinion and am not attacking you in any way, i just think that roy was like ali only ali actually had the resume. roy built himself up to be more than he actually was. and the media baught into it. hbo even did.

[DR. FREECLOUD]

How hard can this be to understand, the more people there are then the more talent you have to choose from. Its not rocket science.

Again the reason for the majority of the best boxers coming from the United States is becuase there are far more boxers boxing from the United States than any other country. Unfortunately this is a fact. If you were to look at all boxers with pro licences in the world the largest number would bew from the US - it's not difficult, although I do understand the point your trying to make about options in the US compared to those particually in South America.

soccer and baseball are very big in south america

[Cletus Funk]

How hard can this be to understand, the more people there are then the more talent you have to choose from. Its not rocket science.

Again the reason for the majority of the best boxers coming from the United States is becuase there are far more boxers boxing from the United States than any other country. Unfortunately this is a fact. If you were to look at all boxers with pro licences in the world the largest number would bew from the US - it's not difficult, although I do understand the point your trying to make about options in the US compared to those particually in South America.

You're right, and if you look at the total number of active boxers as opposed to population it removes the "other options" argument. The UK would have the same argument as it loses a hell of alot of people to soccer and rugby.

[jabsRstiff]

pink....

Uhhh, I really didn't need you to explain that to me.
My point is....SO WHAT if there's more people & more boxers from the US than other places ? That means nothing .

In fact, I'll guarantee that the competition in America, amongst Americans, does more to ELIMINATE talent than it does CREATE talent.

I'm from Philadelphia, a city notorious for neighborhood rivalries & horrible gym wars.
Who knows how many fighters left their best days in gym ?

[jabsRstiff]

"what did roy accomplish? true maybe it was his bad luck that his competition was never that great."


Are you saying Hopkins has faced better foes/bigger challenges than Roy ?
Please, break that down for me.

[pinkpanther]

pink....

Uhhh, I really didn't need you to explain that to me.
My point is....SO WHAT if there's more people & more boxers from the US than other places ? That means nothing .

In fact, I'll guarantee that the competition in America, amongst Americans, does more to ELIMINATE talent than it does CREATE talent.

I'm from Philadelphia, a city notorious for neighborhood rivalries & horrible gym wars.
Who knows how many fighters left their best days in gym ?

I accept what your saying about eliminating talent, however if you consider the amount of people with boxing licences from say the UK and the % of those with world titles compared with the percentage of those in the US then I would imagine that it is atleast equal if not superior