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  • KJ
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    #71
    Originally posted by LuKahnLi
    JoMan

    Plenty of good fighters have come from Asian countries. The obstacle has always been getting them exposure over here.
    Mostly in the lighter weight classes though!?

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    • oldgringo
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      #72
      Originally posted by borikua
      Would you bet on that?

      I'd be happy to take your bankroll off of your hands Borikua. I'll take Hop straight up and you can take Tito straight up.

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      • bigdlb12
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        #73
        Originally posted by trinidadpr87
        the us has so much more people than puerto rico.mexico is good but they're bigger than puerto rico.puerto rico is like 1 state in the us.
        thats like saying Texas is, George Foreman,Paulie Ayala,Rocky Juarez,Juan Diaz,Jesse Jame Leija,etc... I am sure there are many more

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        • bigdlb12
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          #74
          Originally posted by trinidadpr87
          I say even though the usa has a lot of good fighters given the population i say puerto rico baby.trinidad cotto cintron camacho ruiz calderon seda dieppa.
          hey man, I work with a few Puerto Ricans and they dont even claim John Ruiz, why do you?lol

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          • m00ks
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            #75
            Originally posted by big_pappy
            the only one i recognize as being a great in that kist is ali.
            Quick list of the top of my head, I should have included Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Robinson, tons.

            And greatness comes with time. You don't think RJJ or Bhop are worth mentioning, watch when they'll retire how people would be talking about how great they were. There will always be questions during their campaign. When Ali was active, I doubt that he has the recognition he has now back then.

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            • bigdlb12
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              #76
              Originally posted by m00ks
              Quick list of the top of my head, I should have included Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Robinson, tons.

              And greatness comes with time. You don't think RJJ or Bhop are worth mentioning, watch when they'll retire how people would be talking about how great they were. There will always be questions during their campaign. When Ali was active, I doubt that he has the recognition he has now back then.
              damn mooks I like your way of thinking man, deep real deep, its kinda like with a singger dies, after he/she is dead their records and songs seem to live on forever.I know they still do but a few are 2pac,Biggie,Selena,Kirk C. (Nirvana),etc... They were recognize in their time but life after death has been great for their record sales

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              • Deejay
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                #77
                Because Felix Trinidad lost to Bernard Hopkins..
                Hmmm, so if Trinidad wins a rematch this means PR is now the better boxing nation?

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                • pinkpanther
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by m00ks
                  Compared to how many from the US?
                  Yeah Mate,

                  Get a brain, have you considered the size and population of the US in comparison to other boxing nations? If you think about it the US is probably one of the worst. In my opinion if your talking in terms of pure talent then Cuba - not really recognised as none of them are alowed to turn profesional bu they dominate the amateur scene, others Mexico - how many legends down the years.

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                  • jabsRstiff
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by pinkpanther
                    Yeah Mate,

                    Get a brain, have you considered the size and population of the US in comparison to other boxing nations? If you think about it the US is probably one of the worst. In my opinion if your talking in terms of pure talent then Cuba - not really recognised as none of them are alowed to turn profesional bu they dominate the amateur scene, others Mexico - how many legends down the years.

                    I don't understand how the population of a nation factors in here.
                    Did you ever think the reason there's a higher ratio of Puerto Rican boxers vs. Americans is because people in the USA have so many more OPTIONS in life ?
                    The fact is....the majority of history's best fighters have come from the United States.

                    BIG PAPPY.....
                    You don't consider Pernell Whitaker an all-time great ?
                    Get the **** outta here, kid. That's ridculous.

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                    • DR. FREECLOUD
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by m00ks
                      Quick list of the top of my head, I should have included Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Robinson, tons.

                      And greatness comes with time. You don't think RJJ or Bhop are worth mentioning, watch when they'll retire how people would be talking about how great they were. There will always be questions during their campaign. When Ali was active, I doubt that he has the recognition he has now back then.
                      your new additions i totally agree with. they are true greats. but i still don't and prolly never will consider b-hop, who i really like, and rjj among the greatest. sure they are very talented and have good boxing skills but to me just not on the greatest level. of those two i would say b-hop before i would rjj.

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