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  • m00ks
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    #31
    Originally posted by borikua
    I think it's been settled that pound for pound (or I should say, square mile per square mile) its Puerto Rico. (It's a common saying among PR boxers that we are the best boxers b/c we are the best dancers... ). But the country with the best and most champs is Mexico...and you can't be a Mexican fighter without a ton of heart and a chin made of granite. I think that the US has so many champs b/c with a population of 275 million, you're bound to have a bunch of great champs.

    US- 275 Million
    Mexico- 105 MIllion
    PR- 7 Million (half on the island, half in the US)

    Champs (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO and interims). I am classifying PR and Mexican champs by ethnicity, even if they live in US:

    PR has 6 champs (Santos, Cotto, Ruiz, Calderon, Rivera, Cintron)
    Plus Trinidad is back, and Morel is in limbo.
    US has 16 champs
    Mexico has 12 champs.

    So, PR has a champ for every 1.16 million persons.
    Mexico has a champ for every 8.75 million persons.
    Americans have a champ for every 17.19 million persons.

    I think PR has the best claim IMHO.
    Its not that simple. There are TONS of factors that come into play. I'm guessing that boxing has a great significance in Puerto Rico because of the history. In the US, there are tons and I mean tons of promises and opportunities in other sports. Football mainly basketball, baseball, hockey, tennis. **** name it. Check out the density of interest.

    Or maybe its because the high figure for PPV buys in the US is around 1 million which represents what, 1-2 million out of 275 million which implies that 0.005% of the population would care to pay to see the matchups let alone build a career out of it.

    It depends on the population and the significance of the sport to the country.

    Throwing in a bunch of numbers that aint gonna give u the full story.
    Last edited by m00ks; 11-16-2004, 12:43 AM.

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    • JOM'S
      MANILA ICE
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      #32
      Guys, US, PR, Mexico produces a lot of champions & great fighters but, I think your just looking at one side of the equation, its not only about the west, you guys are missing a lot of action not seeing some great Asian boxers from Japan, Korea, does anyone of you know how many Thai Champions are there right now???

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      • Tha Greatest
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        #33
        ya

        Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
        No challenge...U.S. wins by KO....Why? Because Felix Trinidad lost to Bernard Hopkins..

        oooooo.......burn....wat ya tito fans got to say now
        tito aint ****
        he got robbed against oscar
        he didnt win one round against hopkins
        he beat a smoking slugger

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        • JOM'S
          MANILA ICE
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          #34
          Guys I am Asian and A Filipino but I did not put the Philippines in my list, cuz nowaday we are not producing that much...

          I just need you guys to look further than the west and give a second look eastward....

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          • mr. bojangles
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            #35
            Originally posted by jomapac
            Guys, US, PR, Mexico produces a lot of champions & great fighters but, I think your just looking at one side of the equation, its not only about the west, you guys are missing a lot of action not seeing some great Asian boxers from Japan, Korea, does anyone of you know how many Thai Champions are there right now???

            1. Yodsanan 3K Battery Nanthachai - WBA Superfeatherweight champ
            2. Veeraphol Sahaphrom - WBC Bantamweight champ
            3. Ratanachai Sor Vorapin - WBO Bantamweight champ
            4. Pongsaklek Wonjongkham - WBC Flyweight champ
            5. Eagle Akakura - WBC minimumweight champ

            Five (5) champions.

            #1-USA = 16 champs
            #2-Mexico = 12 champs
            #3-Puerto Rico = 6 champs
            #4-Thailand = 5 champs

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            • THRILLAinmanila
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              #36
              Originally posted by jomapac
              Guys I am Asian and A Filipino but I did not put the Philippines in my list, cuz nowaday we are not producing that much...

              I just need you guys to look further than the west and give a second look eastward....

              Future Philippine world champs:

              Rey "Boom-Boom" Bautista
              Z "the Dream" Gorres

              Pacman is the only man standing right now so we got to wait
              'til the others take centerstage.

              And to-date only 2 Filipinos have been inducted into the IBHOF:
              Pancho Villa & Flash Elorde. We need to be producing more MannyPac's before we can say the Philippines is one of the world's best boxing nations...

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              • muay
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                #37
                I just need you guys to look further than the west and give a second look eastward....
                Five (5) champions.

                #1-USA = 16 champs
                #2-Mexico = 12 champs
                #3-Puerto Rico = 6 champs
                #4-Thailand = 5 champs
                ...2 Filipinos have been inducted into the IBHOF:
                Pancho Villa & Flash Elorde.
                ...Pacman...
                Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista
                Z "The Dream" Gorres

                ...and Rodel Mayol I must add. More to come, hopefully.

                Peace.
                Last edited by muay; 11-16-2004, 01:41 AM.

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                • abdiel2k3
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by borikua
                  Wilfred Benitez is one of the best in boxing history...actually he still the yungest boxer in history to become champ(at 17), you just bitching like always...bitch2k3.
                  wtf?
                  i didnt diss benitez
                  course he one da greats
                  i was tlakin bout Santo u dumb ass piece of crap
                  lol
                  ummmmmmm
                  Bitchikua

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                    No challenge...U.S. wins by KO....Why? Because Felix Trinidad lost to Bernard Hopkins..

                    LMAO!!! US is the best and it's hard to swallow for some people but its the truth. That list that was compiled for the PR against US was hilarious. It's really just not even a fair fight. Although I think Cotto will be great someday...Tito is going to get destroyed by Hop again.

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                    • borikua
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by oldgringo
                      Tito is going to get destroyed by Hop again.
                      Would you bet on that?

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