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Exactly. If Floyd has any balls he'll fight Mosley after he outclasses an undersized but very game JMM. I doubt Pac/Mayweather will happen either, since Roach will insist they fight at 140 while Floyd insists they fight at 147. Not to mention they'll both want 70/30 in their favor, and that bitter old bastard Bob Arum will somehow find a way to prevent the fight from happening anyway.
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no matter what floyd does, he wil always get criticised, read those threads horus posted a week or so ago people were saying "oh he cant beat judah, baldomir, gatti blah blah blahComment
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Cotto/Mosley could've gone either way. But Floyd won't be going anywhere near Mosley after seeing what he did to Margarito. The man is on fire right now.
Maybe it's the fact that he's gonna be losing half of all_his_****, or who knows, but the way I see it, Shane's in the zone right now and I don't see any other welters beating him. Maybe PWill has a chance, but that guy's probably not coming back down to welter.Comment
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As long as Floyd comes in under 150 like he usually does, there shouldn't be a problem with it given Pac is a 147+ pound fighter come fight-time...you know, the time when it actually matters when they are fighting.
However, what's funny is that there are JrWW fighters that come in over Floyd's fight-time weight...and you had Pac fighting at 147 on fight-night for Diaz.Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-20-2009, 05:42 PM.Comment
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Look Benny. I know fight-time weights are significant (although by boxing rules irelevant). A problem is that we don't know what those weights are for sure.
Is it a bathroom weight they are using?
Is the floor where the weight is placed completely horizontal?
Is the weighing fully closed?
Are they wearing ***elry?
Are supervisors present?
Etc.
I would expect a lot of fighters to put on some heavy shoes and have a gold-bar in the pocket before that unofficial weigh-in as there might be a psycological edge to gain if you outweigh your opponent by a significant amount.Comment
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Well you know Floyd is keeping it real and wearing ***elry and fur
But you are right: If they are going to do it, they should have one set proper fight-time weight weigh-in.
But this was one of my points: Pac.... Freddie said Pac's ideal fight-time weight is 147 and when it comes to fight-night, he is either spot on or right around it (since he was 148 for Hatton). Freddie even said he weighed in at 152 with 6% body-fat so that shows you he isn't small and they are weighing him in the gym and keeping an eye on him.
I don't think the fighters know what each other's fight-time weight is until after the fight; and if you look 147, you are not going to get away with lying and saying you are 170.Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-20-2009, 06:43 PM.Comment
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Well, they don't seem to think so.
Joey Gamache's case against NYSAC on after 9-year wait
BY MITCH ABRAMSON
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Monday, December 22nd 2008, 9:10 PM
For a brief moment, Joey Gamache was flying through space.
When he finally crashed down in the ring at Madison Square Garden nearly nine years ago, his retirement and the kernels of a lawsuit would be hatched.
Three judges and a trio of attorneys later, Gamache will finally get his day in court.
On Monday, Judge Melvin Schweitzer of the New York Court of Claims produced a 26-page decision, sending the civil case to trial and beginning the process of resolving a matter that has been shrouded in controversy throughout this decade.
Gamache contends that Arturo Gatti, his opponent for his Feb.26, 2000, bout, was allowed to weigh in over the agreed-upon weight limit of 141 pounds and that Gatti was given an unfair advantage in the ring.
The night of the bout, Gatti reportedly weighed 160 pounds, according to HBO scales, while Gamache, who made weight the day before, checked in at 145 pounds.
The result was inevitable.
Gamache was nearly decapitated in the second round, retired from the sport on his way back to the dressing room and was reported to have sustained permanent brain damage.
Shortly thereafter, Gamache filed a lawsuit against the New York State Athletic Commission, alleging fraud, breach of contract and negligence at the Feb.25 weigh-in.
Two of the causes were thrown out, while the negligence cause of action withstood.
"We're extremely pleased that by making this decision the court is saying loud and clear that the commission can and will be held responsible when they conduct themselves in a negligent manner that results in injuries to the fighters," said Gamache's attorney, Keith Sullivan. "They had a duty that day that when Joey weighed in at 141 pounds, that his opponent also weighed in at the same weight. It's disgraceful."
No trial date has been set, nor has compensation been discussed, but Sullivan expects the case to begin in February or March.
Gamache, 42, lives in Manhattan and works as a boxing trainer.
A year after Gamache's alleged incident at the weigh-in, Beethaeven Scottland was killed because of injuries incurred in the ring against George Khalid Jones at the U.S.S. Intrepid.
Sullivan described the New York State Commission back then as "a festering ground of political patronage with guys who didn't have the knowledge or skills to help the fighters."
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