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  • S.G.
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    #21
    Originally posted by sandyvahra
    At 147 it's absolutely nothing. Any top 5 WW would have better odds than Marquez has. That's what it boils down to. There's probably Jr. WW that are closer underdogs than JMM. This fight is disgusting, and there are better, more legacy defining, more money fights, more appealing fights & above all more challenging fights out there. This fight is disgusting.
    i disagree. I give JMM a better chance than the likes of Berto and Quintana

    i'm sure I'll be right come fight night too. JMM is gonna make a fight of it

    and also I fundamentally agree that you can "harm a legacy". What has happened, has happened. Nothing can take that away... Think of it as an XP metre on some RPG game, it goes up every time you fight, just to different extents depending on who you face

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    • ThunderWolf
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      #22
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      Really? He just moved up to 135 less than a year ago and now he's a welter? Hmmm....
      Fighting weight or the day of the fight (the day after weight-in). He fought JMM-Pac2 at 145 I think, and he was heavier at fight night against Diaz.

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        #23
        Originally posted by ThunderWolf
        Fighting weight or the day of the fight (the day after weight-in). He fought JMM-Pac2 at 145 I think, and he was heavier at fight night against Diaz.
        Was that 'fight-night weight' stripped or with shoes, ***elry etc. and was it on the official scale or a bath-room weight?

        There's no rules for 'fight-night weight'. Maybe there should be, but there is not.

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        • sandyvahra
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          #24
          Originally posted by S.G.
          i disagree. I give JMM a better chance than the likes of Berto and Quintana

          i'm sure I'll be right come fight night too. JMM is gonna make a fight of it


          and also I fundamentally agree that you can "harm a legacy". What has happened, has happened. Nothing can take that away... Think of it as an XP metre on some RPG game, it goes up every time you fight, just to different extents depending on who you face
          You may but your probably in the minority, and note on the side of oddsmakers.

          Hmmm alright well we can make a bet on this if you like. But how would we define fight? I say Marquez doesn't win 4 rounds on any scorecard if it goes the distance, or he gets ko'd.

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          • ThunderWolf
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            #25
            Well, these are just my opinions, but I feel this will definitely be a 50/50 fight. One positive aspect about JMM`s predicament is that the will not be weight-drained. And he has been taking up weights and bodybuilding according to articles.

            So what`s the difference? JMM will be a little slower but possibly more powerfull. Who knows?

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              #26
              Originally posted by sandyvahra
              You may but your probably in the minority, and note on the side of oddsmakers.

              Hmmm alright well we can make a bet on this if you like. But how would we define fight? I say Marquez doesn't win 4 rounds on any scorecard if it goes the distance, or he gets ko'd.
              Okay... So if Marquez wins 4+ rounds on any scorecard plus survives the distance I win the bet...

              20k straight up? or what

              also it's too subjective to put into a bet but I reckon he'll be competetive in just about every round. Maybe bar the latter few when Floyd has gotten to him

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              • Pullcounter
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                #27
                Originally posted by ThunderWolf
                Well, these are just my opinions, but I feel this will definitely be a 50/50 fight. One positive aspect about JMM`s predicament is that the will not be weight-drained. And he has been taking up weights and bodybuilding according to articles.
                this is a disadvantage because floyd will not have to get down in weight.

                So what`s the difference? JMM will be a little slower but possibly more powerfull. Who knows?
                lols... its the difference between victory and defeat. power never beat floyd. but speed gives floyd trouble.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  this is a disadvantage because floyd will not have to get down in weight.

                  lols... its the difference between victory and defeat. power never beat floyd. but speed gives floyd trouble.
                  I was surprised when JMM beat casamayor and Juan Diaz. I don`t under-estimate a proven veteran, JMM. He has never been koed I think, only kd. These are two elite fighters, in the same way that I don`t under-estimate Pac, this will be a great, hard-fought fight.

                  JMM has a very great resolve to fight Pac again. He will go all-out in this fight, and PBF may get nervous. Pacquiao has proven time and again that size doesn`t matter much.

                  JMM may just prove a lot of people wrong. I wouldn`t bet too much on PBF if I were you, remember, in this fight JMM is willing to die in the ring.
                  Last edited by ThunderWolf; 05-20-2009, 11:04 AM.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ThunderWolf
                    I was surprised when JMM beat casamayor and Juan Diaz. I don`t under-estimate a proven veteran, JMM. He has never been koed I think, only kd. These are two elite fighters, in the same way that I don`t under-estimate Pac, this will be a great, hard-fought fight.

                    JMM has a very great resolve to fight Pac again. He will go all-out in this fight, and PBF may get nervous. Pacquiao has proven time and again that size doesn`t matter much.

                    JMM may just prove a lot of people wrong. I wouldn`t bet too much on PBF if I were you, remember, in this fight JMM is willing to die in the ring.
                    the difference is:

                    - jmm isn't pac.
                    - jmm has never fought above 135 lbs
                    - jmm doesn't have superhuman speed or power

                    jmm has a chance to make good fight out of it in a losing effort, but a loss is still a loss, and may cost him a future fight w/ pac.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by talip bin osman
                      to be fair to PBF, hearns fought a significantly smaller man in duran & i haven't encountered ( yet ) any hate or criticism thrown at hearns by the boxing community for beating a smaller & older man...
                      duran had already won a belt at light middle before he fought hearns and he later went on to win a belt at middleweight.

                      as opposed to marquez who i doubt will ever win a fight above 140 in his career.

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