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  • Forget Cotto, Mosley and Chavez Jr

    Having seen the utter destruction that Pacquiao sowed wherever he went, Cotto was just smart not to be standing in the Pacman's path, and that is the 140 route. On the other side, Mayweather thinks the Marquez fight is gonna buy him some time to prepare before he eventually square it off against Pacquiao. Blame the purse, the economy, the swine flu but Junior Fraud is never off the hook until he fights the Pacman in a Moment-Of-Truth battle.

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    • Originally posted by Clint650 View Post
      this isnt going to happen in the business of boxing, but i wish manny would stay at jww or go back to lightweight and take on some of the opposition there. i believe his true p4p title is @ 135-140. if roach is serious about facing ww's then he and manny need to make the move up to ww. there shouldnt be any reason to force catch weights if roach is confident enough in manny. the guy has already done amazing things in the ring, but to keep manny permanently between two tough divisions (lw and ww) imo won't help his legacy.
      I agree, there are plenty of great fights at lower weights. I'd make an exception for Pac-Mayweather at catchweight though, because I don't think Floyd would be weight drained and everyone wants to see that fight.

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      • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
        I'm not confused at all. I'm just stating that if Freddie
        doesn't want Pacquiao to fight a WW at 147 then he
        shouldn't let Pac fight them at all.
        1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
        3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW
        Marquez is going up to 144 but Pac or Freddie won't go up to 144/45 to meet Cotto?
        so you wanna see marquez/cotto now?

        Their shouldn't be no discussion about a Cotto
        fight with Pac because clearly Freddie wants Floyd anyway.
        If Roach really wants to protect his boxer then he
        shouldn't try to match him with guys that are clearly
        bigger than him.
        1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
        3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW

        Freddie had the inside scoop on De
        La Hoya but Cotto/Mayweather I think would beat Pac
        and his power wouldn't be a big issue.
        No *****...

        2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto officially weighed 138 lbs???

        6) pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto/mosley officially weighed 142 lbs???

        He doesn't want Pac to campaign at 147 but still wants him
        to compete at a catch weight with fighters who are 147lbs?
        fail.

        arum wants those fights, not roach. roach just wants pbf then jmm.

        Originally posted by Clint650 View Post
        this isnt going to happen in the business of boxing, but i wish manny would stay at jww or go back to lightweight and take on some of the opposition there. i believe his true p4p title is @ 135-140. if roach is serious about facing ww's then he and manny need to make the move up to ww.
        1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal

        there shouldnt be any reason to force catch weights if roach is confident enough in manny. the guy has already done amazing things in the ring, but to keep manny permanently between two tough divisions (lw and ww) imo won't help his legacy.
        3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW


        Originally posted by prsi View Post
        Was it fair to do it with De La Hoya??

        delahoyas signed the contract, obviously it was fair to him.
        De la Hoya is even bigger than Cotto and has fought in 2 weight classes higher than Cotto. That's just a cheap excuse
        5) Cotto is a MW on fight night and Pac is a WW on fight night. IS THAT FAIR???


        Roach is just willing level the field to his side. What Cotto has publically agreed to, is a better level of playing field than Pacman-De La Hoya. A guy smaller than De La Hoya with a smaller weight limit (145 lbs), once again, why not with Cotto at 145???

        1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
        3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW

        The only excuse for Pacman's camp to not use the same conditions that they used with De La Hoya is that they fear that Pacman might be in danger of loosing against Cotto under the same conditions.
        obviously...

        2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto officially weighed 138 lbs???

        6) pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto/mosley officially weighed 142 lbs???

        Keep in mind that it was Pacman's Camp who mentioned Cotto's name saying that they would fight Cotto instead of FMJ.
        fail. arum is the one pushing this fight

        True that Arum started the gossip, but it was Pacman's camp who publically reacted. If you call out a boxer fight him at his weight if not shut up!!!
        exactly!!! according to your logic, cotto called out pac so he should fight pac at 140 lbs then!!!

        Even when called out Cotto agreed to fight at a lower wight (145) which is giving the importance that Pacquiao deserves but that doesn't mean that even if you are THE MAN IN BOXING (like Pacman is right now) you don't have to take your pants down and let him screw you, by going down to 142 lbs.
        Good point. either fight pac at 142 or GTFO and fight mosley.

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        • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
          1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
          3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW

          so you wanna see marquez/cotto now?


          1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
          3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW


          No *****...

          2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto officially weighed 138 lbs???

          6) pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto/mosley officially weighed 142 lbs???


          fail.

          arum wants those fights, not roach. roach just wants pbf then jmm.


          1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal


          3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW



          delahoyas signed the contract, obviously it was fair to him.

          5) Cotto is a MW on fight night and Pac is a WW on fight night. IS THAT FAIR???



          1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
          3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW


          obviously...

          2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto officially weighed 138 lbs???

          6) pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto/mosley officially weighed 142 lbs???


          fail. arum is the one pushing this fight


          exactly!!! according to your logic, cotto called out pac so he should fight pac at 140 lbs then!!!



          Good point. either fight pac at 142 or GTFO and fight mosley.
          Whatever man.

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          • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
            1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
            3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW

            so you wanna see marquez/cotto now?


            1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
            3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW


            No *****...

            2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto officially weighed 138 lbs???

            6) pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto/mosley officially weighed 142 lbs???


            fail.

            arum wants those fights, not roach. roach just wants pbf then jmm.


            1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal


            3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW



            delahoyas signed the contract, obviously it was fair to him.

            5) Cotto is a MW on fight night and Pac is a WW on fight night. IS THAT FAIR???



            1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
            3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW


            obviously...

            2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto officially weighed 138 lbs???

            6) pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto/mosley officially weighed 142 lbs???


            fail. arum is the one pushing this fight


            exactly!!! according to your logic, cotto called out pac so he should fight pac at 140 lbs then!!!



            Good point. either fight pac at 142 or GTFO and fight mosley.
            i got some napkins here so you can wipe the ***** away from your mouth which pakyow left fom having his dog **** in there.:*******::*******::*******:

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            • Pullcounter said:
              - 1 of 2 to have 6 titles in 6 different divisions
              - only person to have 4 lineal titles
              - beat morales 3x
              - beat jmm 2x
              - beat mab 2x
              - only person to KO morales
              - only person to knockdown jmm 4x
              - 1 of 2 to stop mab
              - 1 of 2 to stop DLH
              - 1 of 2 to stop Hatton
              - beat DLH worst than Floyd
              - KOed Hatton faster than Floyd
              - fought from 106 lbs all the way to 147 (actually 142) lbs

              As usual, you try to be "Mr. know-it-all" but get your facts straight punk, Paquiao beat Morales twice not 3x like you claim.:*******:***!



              pac's legacy is already impressive and cemented. wins over Cotto and Mosley would just be icing on the cake and aren't necessary.

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              • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal no he didnt
                3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW now he does

                so you wanna see marquez/cotto now? nope cuz jmm didnt call out cotto and superpac did


                1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
                3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW
                old news no longer true

                No *****...

                2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto officially weighed 138 lbs???cotto hasnt foughtat140 4 years nor will at 140 like pac just did, again he didnt call out the heavier guys like pac did

                6) pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto/mosley officially weighed 142 lbs???but weighd 148 fight night heavier than oscar by 2 lbs, destroying any credibility to your ******* argument


                fail.

                arum wants those fights, not roach. roach just wants pbf then jmm.pac said clearly himself paaaa i fite at 135 140 or 147 af hatton fite. another lie by you


                1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal that was then this is now. again they want welters.


                3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW, all changed now since pac has found proved he can beat welters



                delahoyas signed the contract, obviously it was fair to him.thats ridiculous pac made his biggest purse ever and won, weight draining old shot oscar was fair for oscar???

                5) Cotto is a MW on fight night and Pac is a WW on fight night. IS THAT FAIR???yes because its pac that wants cotto not the other way around team pac publicly seeking that fight therefore have no right to make any demands if they want the fight especially ***** ***** weight drain handicaps like that.



                1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal,again that was then thia is now he can beat welters therefore roach changed his mind since then.
                3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW, but it happened the best intentions always change with the circumstances.i didnt intend to meck your face but did.


                obviously...

                2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto officially weighed 138 lbs???obviously he did because it was a 140lb fight,cotto doesnt need to weigh 138 because team pac seeking cotto not the other way around

                6) pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto/mosley officially weighed 142 lbs???again they dont have to its not theyre fault theyre bigger,they have no obligation to get screwed just because pac his ******* fans want a victory without suffering the consequences or taking any risk put up or shut up pac aint special, to where cotto or mosley have to do that.


                fail. arum is the one pushing this fight -another lie team pac will sit ringside at cotto fight it was arums idea but it was pacs team whom accepted it and is activley seeking it therefor forfeiting any ridiculous demands they may have


                exactly!!! according to your logic, cotto called out pac so he should fight pac at 140 lbs then!!!



                Good point. either fight pac at 142 or GTFO and fight mosley.
                pac dont hold the key to the golden crapper here cotto does in this fight its not he whom is seeking this fight

                Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
                i got some napkins here so you can wipe the ***** away from your mouth which pakyow left fom having his dog **** in there.:*******::*******::*******:

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                • I completely respect Manny & what he's done, but there is no way Cotto or Mosley should fight Pac at 140, 142, or anything below 145, if at all. Pac has his 6th crown & should eventually go for the record of 7. But he will eventually have to do it at 147. Cotto is WW champion, Mosley is a WW champion, history is waiting at WELTER WEIGHT. Neither Cotto nor Mosley should consider any fight with Pac close to Jr WW limit, they will be too physically taxed & to be honest, Pac would look like a fighter who needs a big edge to win. Also consider that at WW there are very good fights for any of the richly talented WW contenders & champions, who is Pac going to fight at jr? Timothy Bradley? Victor Ortiz (a future big name but not yet)? What big names are there? The WW champions should not risk there health in a "rigged" match, they have more clout than they beleive & should not give in simply because of money. I love & respect Pac, but this move does not show any class, good for Cotto.

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                  • I like Pac, but Roach se esta guillando de ganso aqui, he tryin to drain anyother best welterweight like he did De La Hoya because there is more than 75% chance of Pac losing, and COTTO Puņeta well said, if they dont wanna do it @ a 145 limit or more than 4get it, i love Cotto 4 standin up 4 himself n bein wise n not dumb like other fighters.

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                    • cotto is not underestimating no1 read the story when asked about pac he said hes thinking only of clottey. thats all the cotto fans

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