Cotto Refuses To Fight Pacquiao Below 145-Pounds

[Dave Rado]

Let me ask you this was the Cotto fight with the cheater Margarito in a PPV? yes it was and Where was the Mosley/Margarito fight? On Free HBO! that is right Mosley can't draw **** and the only way he is on PPV is if big names like Cotto, De La Hoya etc fight with him. On the other side Cotto can headline a PPV with guys like Jennings and Judah and do pretty good.

Is not Mosley's fault because he is a great fighter and I like to watch him fight but he can't draw to save his life and is a joke to expect Mosley vs Paquiao American or not to draw more than Cotto/Pacquiao.

I am not the only one that knows that.

Check this out



http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=3013937

Did you see the end of that article? It made a good point:

Mosley, who turned 36 last week, is already a hall of fame lock; but it's not too late for him to become a crossover star. Ring legend Marvelous Marvin Hagler -- every bit the pure gym rat and fighter's fighter that Mosley is -- didn't cross over until the final three bouts of his storied career. The breakthrough for the Marvelous One came vs. Thomas Hearns. Their middleweight showdown was the hardcore fight fans' fight of 1985, but in terms of personalities and charisma, it was a matchup of two regular guys who lacked the kind of mainstream appeal of Sugar Ray Leonard or even Roberto Duran.

The fight, however, which hardcore fans like yourself knew would be explosive, transcended the sport of boxing and defined both the winner and loser for the rest of their careers, enabling both Hagler and the Hitman to rise to the commercial and celebrity ranks of their more charismatic counterparts, Leonard and Duran.

And don't forget that the fact that Marg-Mosley was free to air was a blessing in disguise because a lot more fans got to see it than would have if it had been on PPV. And that will help sell his next fight.

[Jabrony]

So your argument is since cotto headlines ppvs & mosley fought on free hbo which was highly rated & had the most fans in staple center arena in its history that pac vs cotto would out do pac vs mosley?


Julio Cesar Chavez jr. headlines ppvs. How many ppvs did cotto vs jennings do? & that was with kelly pavlik.

Mosley vs a established superstar = big ppvs.

I like miguel cotto. He's a star. Not a superstar. There are only 3 supertars (mainstream muscle) in boxing right now. Oscar, Fraud jr, & Pacquiao. The rest are just stars.

Im just saying brah.

I made a poll.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=273128

[DonTaseMeBrah]

I made a poll.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=273128

What does that solve? We are talking about a hypthetical match up. Will your polls reach mainstream fans who have never heard of boxingscene.com?

As ive stated before, i want to see Pac vs cotto before cotto v mosley or pac v mosley.

[prsi]

1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal

because he knew that dlh loosing all the weight and him being old would hurt him

2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto officially weighed 138 lbs???

So what, he weighed in 135 against David Diaz and still fought a guy that has fought at 160lbs 6 months later a 147, once again, why not with Cotto at 145???


3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW

So he]is campshould stop asking for WW to come down in weight. Pacquiao can continue to fight at 140 and he would still for me be the best. He has nothing to prove but don't come and brag about welter weights when you don't want to fight in a WW weight limit

4) unless cotto agrees to 142, this fight shouldn't even be discussed.

It was Pacman's advisers that called out Cotto after Arum mentioned the bout buy saying that they would rather fight Cotto than Maywether.

5) Cotto is a MW on fight night and Pac is a WW on fight night. IS THAT FAIR???

Was it fair to do it with De La Hoya?? De la Hoya is even bigger than Cotto and has fought in 2 weight classes higher than Cotto. That's just a cheap excuse

Roach is just willing level the field to his side. What Cotto has publically agreed to, is a better level of playing field than Pacman-De La Hoya. A guy smaller than De La Hoya with a smaller weight limit (145 lbs), once again, why not with Cotto at 145???

The only excuse for Pacman's camp to not use the same conditions that they used with De La Hoya is that they fear that Pacman might be in danger of loosing against Cotto under the same conditions.
Keep in mind that it was Pacman's Camp who mentioned Cotto's name saying that they would fight Cotto instead of FMJ. True that Arum started the gossip, but it was Pacman's camp who publically reacted. If you call out a boxer fight him at his weight if not shut up!!! Even when called out Cotto agreed to fight at a lower wight (145) which is giving the importance that Pacquiao deserves but that doesn't mean that even if you are THE MAN IN BOXING (like Pacman is right now) you don't have to take your pants down and let him screw you, by going down to 142 lbs.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

Was it fair to do it with De La Hoya?? De la Hoya is even bigger than Cotto and has fought in 2 weight classes higher than Cotto. That's just a cheap excuse

Roach is just willing level the field to his side. What Cotto has publically agreed to, is a better level of playing field than Pacman-De La Hoya. A guy smaller than De La Hoya with a smaller weight limit (145 lbs), once again, why not with Cotto at 145???

The only excuse for Pacman's camp to not use the same conditions that they used with De La Hoya is that they fear that Pacman might be in danger of loosing against Cotto under the same conditions.
Keep in mind that it was Pacman's Camp who mentioned Cotto's name saying that they would fight Cotto instead of FMJ. True that Arum started the gossip, but it was Pacman's camp who publically reacted. If you call out a boxer fight him at his weight if not shut up!!! Even when called out Cotto agreed to fight at a lower wight (145) which is giving the importance that Pacquiao deserves but that doesn't mean that even if you are THE MAN IN BOXING (like Pacman is right now) you don't have to take your pants down and let him screw you, by going down to 142 lbs.

brah,

what happend to carlos arroyo?

[DonTaseMeBrah]

He's playing ball in Europe!!!!

thats funny,

didnt he play for the magic? they sure could have used him this year.

[prsi]

brah,

what happend to carlos arroyo?

He's playing ball in Europe!!!!

[GRUSTLER]

roach said the fight w/ dlh at 147 was a one time deal; roach has no intention for pac to campaign at WW. what about this is confusing for you?

I'm not confused at all. I'm just stating that if Freddie
doesn't want Pacquiao to fight a WW at 147 then he
shouldn't let Pac fight them at all. Marquez is going up
to 144 but Pac or Freddie won't go up to 144/45 to meet Cotto? Their shouldn't be no discussion about a Cotto
fight with Pac because clearly Freddie wants Floyd anyway.

roach is trying to protect his boxer who is a WW on fight night against cotto and mosley who are MW on fight night.

If Roach really wants to protect his boxer then he
shouldn't try to match him with guys that are clearly
bigger than him. Freddie had the inside scoop on De
La Hoya but Cotto/Mayweather I think would beat Pac
and his power wouldn't be a big issue.

that's what roach wants, he doesn't want pac to campaign at 147 lbs.

He doesn't want Pac to campaign at 147 but still wants him
to compete at a catch weight with fighters who are 147lbs?

[Clint650]

this isnt going to happen in the business of boxing, but i wish manny would stay at jww or go back to lightweight and take on some of the opposition there. i believe his true p4p title is @ 135-140. if roach is serious about facing ww's then he and manny need to make the move up to ww. there shouldnt be any reason to force catch weights if roach is confident enough in manny. the guy has already done amazing things in the ring, but to keep manny permanently between two tough divisions (lw and ww) imo won't help his legacy.

[Pinuno]

yup everywhere i go theres *******s and they run wild on u tube someone's gotta keep those muthaf--kas in check.

hahahaha.....

Now I see why you are ******ED then and far more ******ED now than those *******s.

At least them *******s have the reasons to idolize their hero as it turned out, but you just have eternal hatred and can't accept Pac has beaten and destroyed ALL your favorite boxers. hahahaa....

*******s getting wild just because there are DUMB and ****** people like roaming on the internet.