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  • Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
    Why is Cotto-Pacquiao okay but JMM-Floyd isn't?

    Scratch that.... Why is Cotto-Pacquiao okay but Pac-PWill isn't?????
    ask bruce Lee

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    • Originally posted by yingyang View Post
      Why Does Pacquiao Need a Handicap to Beat Cotto, Mosley & Mayweather?

      By Manuel Perez:
      Recently, Manny Pacquiao has picked up the tendency to fight opponents out of their weight class, making Oscar De La Hoya have to move down to 147 in order to fight him. This resulted in De La Hoya having to diet drastically to make weight, leaving weak and only a shell of his former self. Pacquiao then goes out and beats Oscar badly, leaving the perception with the boxing public that Pacquiao beat a prime De La Hoya and not a fighter that had to basically diet down to a weight that he hadn’t fought in years.


      I don’t know about you, but I don’t see how Pacquiao can be given any kind of pound for pound attention when Manny isn’t able to meet De La Hoya at his normal weight. Roach says that he’s just looking out for his fighter by making Pacquiao’s bigger opponents have to come down to unrealistic weight requirements in order to fight Pacquiao.


      Now, Roach is trying to duplicate this with fights against Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley, letting them know that if they want to fight Pacquiao then they’ll have to strip down to a skinny, weight drained 142 to make it happen. It seems to me that his is nothing more than cherry picking at the finest.

      Pacquiao walks around at 148, and if he can’t fight meet a fighter like Mosley or Cotto, both of whom fight at 147, at the welterweight limit, then they should just scrap the idea altogether and let Pacquiao continue to fight the David Diaz’s of the world. Fair is fair.

      There’s no victory over an opponent that is forced to strip off muscle in order to make a fight happen, because the version of the fighter that Pacquiao ends up fighting is a weak, weight drained version and not a prime one.

      If you don’t believe me, try getting in really good shape and then having to take off five pounds of muscle to take a fight. Yes, you could do it but you’d be weaker than you were before you started and you’d be in trouble against a fighter that is used to fighting at the smaller weight.

      What gets me is that Roach is okay with Pacquiao fighting De La Hoya at 147, but he’s not okay with Pacquiao fighting Mosley or Cotto at the same weight. Obviously, Roach knows that he needs them both to be as weak as possible for Pacquiao to beat them.

      That’s the real key, they have to be weak otherwise they’ll wipe the deck with Pacquiao and Roach probably knows this. That’s why any victories that Pacquiao would get over either one of them have to be looked at in the larger picture of what they were forced to do in order to get a fight with Pacquiao in the first place.

      It’s like saying, ‘hey, if you want to fight my guy you have to be extra weight otherwise the fights’ not going to happen.’ If that’s the case, then what is it will all this pound for pound stuff? You can’t reward a fighter that makes other fighters have to be weak before they fight you, because that isn’t what the sport is all about. It’s about fairness, not handicapping your opponent so much that you beat them.

      If Pacquiao needs handicaps to win his fights, then he needs to go back down and fight someone his own size. I suppose then they’d dream up some other handicap to find to leave them at a disadvantage, too.


      this manuel perez is delusional...

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      • i like the comment of asking Klichkos to come down to 154 pds

        Oscar had to come down from 154 to fight Pac and look like **** doing it. They r trying to set up Cotto the same way. Pac will have a hard time with a true strong welterweight at 147 pds. The Pac team didnt ask for Oscar to come down lower than 147... sooo whats the big deal now!!!

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        • Originally posted by vaborikua View Post
          just like people said he wouldnt get past mosley or judah even people said hell lose to jennings hell beat clottey stop trying to make it seem like he sucks
          He doesn't suck. Clottey doesn't suck either. He's durable, he's quick. He could very well beat Cotto.

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          • I think that could be a good weight to fight, that is only 3 more pouns Cotto would need to take off, I don't think that would drain him to much.

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            • Originally posted by Alem721 View Post
              PAC fought a ghost of DLH at 147 with no prob. What's wrong? fight MC at 147. PAC will get seriously hurt and everyone knows it. Being at ringside pac will watch how hard cotto hits and that seeing that will keep PAC away from the WW Div. he'll fight an old WW but not a young WW at 147? sounds like a PBF move 2 me!!!
              You sound like an idiot if I ever heard one! Pac weighed in at 142 for Oscar and at 138 for Hatton. Cotto is a big welterweight and has been fighting as a welterweight. Pac has never fought as a welterweight, unless you consider 142 as the same as 147! Pac is already at a great disadvantage in size even if they fight at 144. To compare that to a PBF move is just plain moronic.

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              • All the hype around Pac makes it seem like he can beat any freaking body. Pac has not been hit by a strong welterweight like Cotto or Mosley.

                i agree; when Pac goes to see Cotto fight, hes going to back out. A fight with Cotto wont be worth the risk. he'll get more money to fight floyd.

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                • Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                  So you are saying that is OK to fight a old out of prime guy at a weight, cash it as one of your biggest wins, but then when a prime figher like you wants to fight you at that weight you was succesfull, you cant because you wont have the advantage of having a old washed up opponent in front of you?

                  **** that.

                  PS. JMM has never fought aove 135,a ndf FLoyd will fight him at 147, thats another ***** move!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
                  Many times, we just have to let idiotic, moronic and ignorant remarks go. But just to educate you, Manny Pacquiao has never ever fought at 147. The contract weight for the de la Hoya fight was 147, but Pacquiao weighed in at 142, not 147. Now, tell me again that Manny has fought at welterweight so he should fight Cotto at welterweight. LOL. Some people just can't help but be idiots.

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                  • Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                    So you are saying that is OK to fight a old out of prime guy at a weight, cash it as one of your biggest wins, but then when a prime figher like you wants to fight you at that weight you was succesfull, you cant because you wont have the advantage of having a old washed up opponent in front of you?

                    **** that.

                    PS. JMM has never fought aove 135,a ndf FLoyd will fight him at 147, thats another ***** move!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
                    You and 99% of the boxing world never said Oscar was washed up when he signed to fight Manny. He was too big, too skilled, and would obliterate Pacquiao certainly, and the fight itself was labeled as a circus. Manny took a great risk when he signed to fight Oscar but he took it anyway because he was a warrior and because of the huge dollars involved. Now, after the fight, Oscar suddenly became old, washed out and weight-drained (last time I checked, he was already 147 a month before the fight!)
                    Now, Manny doesn't have to sacrifice anything for Cotto. Cotto doesn't have half of the bargaining power that Oscar has. Manny doesn't need Cotto. Cotto needs Manny and the dollars that go with him.

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                    • Originally posted by jantzen212003 View Post
                      Fighting dlh at 147? Why? Cant fight cotto @ 147? Why? A fight @ 147 against a belt holder gives him another championship in another class! But dragging cotto down to a weight he was "drained" at is pretty weak! Considering pacq was successful at that weight!


                      Smells a little funny to me! PU**Y!
                      yeah, funny you can't understand!!!!

                      Pacquiao is a natural 140lbs these days coming from 106lbs when he started.

                      Cotto is a natural 160 pounder during fight nights.

                      The maximum weight Pacquiao can make on fight nights is 148 lbs. Got that?

                      So, you want to see Cotto at 160lbs fighting Pacquiao at 148 lbs?

                      You are trying to give Cotto too much advantage. hahahahaha.....

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