Marquez - "Mayweather is The Best, Not Pacquiao"

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  • Xcusemymood
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    #281
    Originally posted by rge_5
    all valid points.

    i think everyone that isnt a Floyd jr fan is just wanting to see him match himself with someone in his division, is that too much to ask for? we all know how good he is but we want to see how good he really is. he says he backs up everything he says but really he doesn't. im mean surely you can understand our frustration with Floyd jr.

    at the end of the day he fights at WW, for f@#$s sake, fight a WW!! and if your gonna claim to be the best fight the f@#$in best, otherwise shut the f@#k up!!
    Im a Floyd fan, but not a fanatic. I too get frustrated with him and I understand why others do as well. I would love to see him fight Cotto or Mosley but at the same time, he has tried to fight both of them before. We have to realize that the stars have aligned for a fight with Pac which is clearly the biggest fight in boxing.

    Yes Marquez is moving up. Maybe Floyd will be bigger but Marquez is a man and clearly a professional who knows what hes doing. He will be making the biggest purse of his career. Maybe the fight is a tune up and maybe its not but at the end of the day it sets up a SUPERFIGHT for Pac and a clear P4P champion(whether its PBF or Marquez who wins and fights Pac).

    People need to get over the hate for this fight. Its part of the story......

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    • Xcusemymood
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      #282
      Originally posted by Dan Gutierrez
      Juan Manuel Marquez only lasted his fights with the Great Pacman because he rest too much on the canvASS during the fights. If he can promise the public that he will stay on his feet during a fight with Manny Pacquiao then the people can start listening to what he is saying.
      Very clever, I am sooo impressed.

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      • PHX PLAYMAKER
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        #283
        Originally posted by trainhard_187
        You mean to say Pacs win over Marquez, which I bet you dont even believe he beat Marquez, is the reason why Pac is regarded as P4P #1? What are you smoking really?

        Pacs resume without Marquez is far better then Marquez's resume. TRUE STATEMENT RIGHT THERE.
        Pac 2 stoppage wins over Morales
        Pac 1 UD over Barrerra and 1 stoppage earlier then when Marquez fought him.
        Those 4 wins right there s#$% on Marquez's whole career.


        I'll say it again NO ONE IS GONNA GIVE PAC CREDIT FOR IS WIN OVER MARQUEZ (except Pac fans), but Pac really doesnt need it.
        lol, its so obvious the judges screwed up in the rematch that you already assumed i agree with most ringside observers who also had JMM winning atleast 7 rounds. 1st fight I had it a draw only because of the 10-6 round,but JMM DOMINATED pac for 2/3 of the match. so u think the 4 wins over past their primes morales n barrera are impressive? then lets also put david diaz n zahir raheem in the p4p list. JMM record should be 54-0, hes been robbed vs freddy norwood,pacquiao, n chris john.

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        • Xcusemymood
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          #284
          Originally posted by Puntoyhauf
          And now you seem to be pointing-out that DLH and Hatton are PBF's left-overs?

          here...help yourself

          Considering that Pacquiao's a left-over of Rustico Torrecampo and Medgoen Singsurat.

          GUYS BEATEN BY FLOYD JR:

          Zab Judah? - Carlos Baldomir, Kostya Tszyu left-over.
          Carlos Baldomir? - Arturo Gatti left-over
          Arturo Gatti? - Micky Ward, Oscar Dela Hoya left over
          Oscar Dela Hoya - for f's sake! how Manny fighters have beaten him?

          THE GUY FLOYD IS ABOUT TO FACE:
          JMM - an L over Chris John! 4x dropped by Pac.... above 135 first timer.

          Now these are recorded facts.... go argue with it!
          Baldomir beat Gatti homie.

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          • Xcusemymood
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            #285
            Originally posted by Da Hammer
            JMM is fighting Floyd just so he can get another chance potentially with Pacquiao. That alone shows who the Marquez thinks the best fighter is!!! Like i said before Marquez is so obsessed with Pac that i would not be shocked if Marquez pulls a stunner and beats Floyd! Marquez wants one last crack at Pacquiao no matter the cost!!!!!!
            That doesnt mean he thinks Pac is better, it means deep in his heart he feels he won and wants a chance to redeem himself. Make alot of sense to me.

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            • adrienne
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              #286
              Originally posted by vErDuGo
              JMM is obsessed with Pac.
              He wouldn't be fighting Mayweather if it wasn't for Pac..
              I agree to that.
              I like JMM but I think he's in love with Manny.. hehe joke

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              • Xcusemymood
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                #287
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                More than the knock-out, it was the right hook in the first round that really showed his improvement. Hatton ****ed his left to throw his left hook, and Pac hit him with a counter-right hook before Hatton had even started to throw his own punch. As Hatton went down, he rather comically threw the left hook he'd been planning to throw, on his way down to the canvas, as if he was trying to punch the ground.

                That punch also showed how good Roach and Pac have become as a team. Everyone knew that Hatton was vulnerable to the straight left, but almost no one, other than Roach, spotted how vulnerable he is to the right hook; and almost no one, other than Roach, spotted the way Hatton always ****s his hand before throwing his left hook, allowing him to be countered before he throws the punch. Because no one had spotted it, Hatton wasn't looking out for the right hook, and didn't see it coming. Roach had the perfect game plan, and Pac implemented it perfectly.

                Based on that I would be astonished if Pac didn't have a new game plan if he fought JMM again, one that would surprise JMM and that would be more effective against him.
                You know whats crazy? In the 24/7 they showed Hatton watching tape of Pac sparring and he was throwing that right hook and ducking under the left hook and Hatton was commenting about how Pac was doing it everytime. Then Pac did it in the fight and got the knockdown.

                It was just amazing that Pac followed what he did in sparring so well in spite of the fact Hatton knew it was coming.

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                • Xcusemymood
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                  #288
                  Originally posted by boxingfan76
                  no way hatton win is higher than marquezes wins no way dude! hatton had been kod, in fact all 3 of pacs last opponents had been kod, i dont care how much money those fights made or pacs popularity ,jmms comp much better than the fighters pacs just beat.pfffffffffff haters~! its much better to beat better opposition in your weight class than to be HANDPICKING MEDIOCRE OPPOSITION in heavier weight classes like team pac have been doing.and they want mosley or cotto to weight drain to 142 now thats aFRAUD!
                  Knock it off man.

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                  • Xcusemymood
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                    #289
                    Originally posted by boxamen
                    Pacquiao didnt fight Morales nor Barrera in their prime, however Morales did beat Pacquiao once, Pacquioa fought old fighters suchas Barrera, Morales, De La Hoya, etc.

                    I believe Marquez is p4p 1, cause for me and all boxing experts he won both fights, Maruqez has waaaay better resume than Pacquioa.
                    Youve got to be kidding right?

                    This has got to be one of the worst single posts in NSB history.

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                    • Xcusemymood
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                      #290
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      That article was based on an article in The Ring, which is here.

                      So much for the constant claims by Floyd's fans that Floyd is a natural Jnr Welterweight ...
                      For the record- I was dissapointed in hearing this.

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