Marquez - "Mayweather is The Best, Not Pacquiao"

[trainhard_187]

Take Marquez out of Pacs resume and he would have no resume.

You mean to say Pacs win over Marquez, which I bet you dont even believe he beat Marquez, is the reason why Pac is regarded as P4P #1? What are you smoking really?

Pacs resume without Marquez is far better then Marquez's resume. TRUE STATEMENT RIGHT THERE.
Pac 2 stoppage wins over Morales
Pac 1 UD over Barrerra and 1 stoppage earlier then when Marquez fought him.
Those 4 wins right there s#$% on Marquez's whole career.


I'll say it again NO ONE IS GONNA GIVE PAC CREDIT FOR IS WIN OVER MARQUEZ (except Pac fans), but Pac really doesnt need it.

[Ekscape]

i feel ya bro... current pac would be too much for him. not only he impoved in skill, he is stronger and faster more than ever

How do you figure that? Pacquio is no faster or stronger then he was last year when he fought JMM... It may seem like he's faster fighting a ODLH who wasnt moving at all or stronger hitting someone clean coming straight at you with their hands down... But nope, same Pacquio as last year... And JMM will give him all kinds of problems just like before if they fought again

[nujabes77]

How do you figure that? Pacquio is no faster or stronger then he was last year when he fought JMM... It may seem like he's faster fighting a ODLH who wasnt moving at all or stronger hitting someone clean coming straight at you with their hands down... But nope, same Pacquio as last year... And JMM will give him all kinds of problems just like before if they fought again

everybody in the world say he improved but you... go have a cup of sdfu

[darkmanx2g]

How do you figure that? Pacquio is no faster or stronger then he was last year when he fought JMM... It may seem like he's faster fighting a ODLH who wasnt moving at all or stronger hitting someone clean coming straight at you with their hands down... But nope, same Pacquio as last year... And JMM will give him all kinds of problems just like before if they fought again

130 lb Pacquiao isn't stronger than 140-147lb Pacquiao. Wow you haven't watched any of his recent fights. Ok, obviously beating legends doesn't make you P4P right. Keep discrediting Pacquiao because if its so easy everyone can be P4P.

[Ekscape]

i feel ya bro... current pac would be too much for him. not only he impoved in skill, he is stronger and faster more than ever

everybody in the world say he improved but you... go have a cup of sdfu

Explain to me how exactly Pacquio has improved from last year when he fought JMM... The same Pacquio from last year would of did the same thing to a shot Dela Hoya and a no defense Ricky Hatton... People are saying that Pacquio has improved over the course of his career but within this last two fights he hasnt done anything in my opinion that has made me go "wow this is a completely different fighter then he was in 2008"... He's pretty much the same to me just in another weight division

[nujabes77]

Explain to me how exactly Pacquio has improved from last year when he fought JMM... The same Pacquio from last year would of did the same thing to a shot Dela Hoya and a no defense Ricky Hatton... People are saying that Pacquio has improved over the course of his career but within this last two fights he hasnt done anything in my opinion that has made me go "wow this is a completely different fighter then he was in 2008"... He's pretty much the same to me just in another weight division

*sighs*... i dont even know what to do with you

[Ekscape]

I'm not discreding Pacquio I'm just saying I havnt seen any huge improvment from within the last year span in my opinion... I dont think he's much stronger or bigger, he came in for his 130 fight with JMM last year on fight day at 145 pounds and he came in against Hatton if i can recall I believe 149 so he's pretty much the same size going up two weight classes... He has the same speed as he had last year as well... So what exactly is the improvement he has had in the last twelve months? It's not like he showcased some new skill that he didnt have last year against De La Hoya or Hatton? The same Pacquio from 08 would of did that to Hatton as well... Yes Pacquio has improved tremendously over his career but his last two fights havnt showcased to me these "stronger, faster, more skilled" attribues you are speaking of

[nujabes77]

I'm not discreding Pacquio I'm just saying I havnt seen any huge improvment from within the last year span in my opinion... I dont think he's much stronger or bigger, he came in for his 130 fight with JMM last year on fight day at 145 pounds and he came in against Hatton if i can recall I believe 149 so he's pretty much the same size going up two weight classes... He has the same speed as he had last year as well... So what exactly is the improvement he has had in the last twelve months?

wont change your mind, no matter what i say

whatever floats your boat dude...

[darkmanx2g]

I'm not discreding Pacquio I'm just saying I havnt seen any huge improvment from within the last year span in my opinion... I dont think he's much stronger or bigger, he came in for his 130 fight with JMM last year on fight day at 145 pounds and he came in against Hatton if i can recall I believe 149 so he's pretty much the same size going up two weight classes... He has the same speed as he had last year as well... So what exactly is the improvement he has had in the last twelve months? It's not like he showcased some new skill that he didnt have last year against De La Hoya or Hatton? The same Pacquio from 08 would of did that to Hatton as well... Yes Pacquio has improved tremendously over his career but his last two fights havnt showcased to me these "stronger, faster, more skilled" attribues you are speaking of

His footwork, his in and out. His punches thrown in difficult angles. His timing of his punches. He doesn't just go all out and throw punches. He throws his punches wisely and hardly gets hit now. Even if we say De La Hoya was shot, he didn't even have a chance to hit him. Hatton was the lineal champion, Pacquiao timed him coming in perfectly. So you can say that Pacquiao knocked Hatton out on a counter punch. Still can't see the improvement?

[fcastro1]

I'm not discreding Pacquio I'm just saying I havnt seen any huge improvment from within the last year span in my opinion... I dont think he's much stronger or bigger, he came in for his 130 fight with JMM last year on fight day at 145 pounds and he came in against Hatton if i can recall I believe 149 so he's pretty much the same size going up two weight classes... He has the same speed as he had last year as well... So what exactly is the improvement he has had in the last twelve months? It's not like he showcased some new skill that he didnt have last year against De La Hoya or Hatton? The same Pacquio from 08 would of did that to Hatton as well... Yes Pacquio has improved tremendously over his career but his last two fights havnt showcased to me these "stronger, faster, more skilled" attribues you are speaking of

have you ever seen pac box the way he did against delahoya. have you seen his right hooks now. man is a two fisted fighter with better movement. even barrera says he has improved. man will kill marquez if they fought again. not even a joke.