Marquez - "Mayweather is The Best, Not Pacquiao"

[DonTaseMeBrah]

hey pac try winning the rest of the fight when you knock a 35 year old guy down,maybe they wont say you got a gift dec. and truly lost.try not getting outconnected by jmm also only further exposes the truth.

Its called rules & regulation u alt. U dont win fights by winning the most round. Its called a 10 point system. Yes JMM won more rounds, he earned those.

But Pacquiao also scored knockdowns. He earned those. They mean something in boxing scoring.

U cant choose to ignore those little required rules in boxing b/c u hate a certain boxer & love another one.

U get a knockdown, u get a extra point. U talk about getting outconnected, yet u choose to ignore the four knockdowns that count in scoring a fight.

[sharkeyez]

Marquez has an advantge in that Floyd is comming off a long lay off. Mayweather's team think that by fighting a lightwieght in Marquez will be on the safe side. I am an amateur boxer weighing 172lbs. I've sparred against guys weighing as low as 130 (mostly working my defense) and it's not a walk in the park against the higher skilled boxers. Just because they are smaller than you does not give the heavier boxer an immediate advantage. There are some small guys that can pack a punch and can compete against heavier guys than them. Just look at Manny. I think Marquez has a good chance to be victorious but he needs to beat up on Floyd early. Floyd has a tendancy to comeout strong in the second half of the fight.

[-Hyperion-]

ronnie nathanielsz= lesser nuthugger than all the pacnuthuggers in here who thought pacquiao won the second marquez fight......pacquiao nor mayweather are the best, its JMM...

[Doc Holliday]

Well your argument is in the lowest form of thinking, first of all the first fight should have won by PACQUIAO by one pt. Second fight, PACQUIAO hurt Marquez on three occasion in that bout, he was lucky that he got Knock down in the last few seconds of the third round, cause if there was more time PACQUIAO (could have, would have, should have) KO HIM. Now, if JMM wins over Floyd (big IF) that doesn't put him ahead of the man who beat him. Mayweather coming back from retirement doesn't put him at No#1, he is at no#3, but can be argued at being no#2..On the facts that since Floyd Jr retired. MANNY beat BARRERA, MARQUEZ, DIAZ, DE LA HOYA, AND HATTON...Marquez beat BARRERA, CASAMAYOR, DIAZ. Based on my facts, I think even boxing experts would agree with me that PACQUIAO'S accomplishments are better than MARQUEZ since Floyd JR retired.

You base your argument on what you think should've happened, and mine is the "lowest form of thinking"? HA HA...I'm not going by what should've happened. The fact is that JMM has won more rounds against Pac and they're separated by a point. Most boxing experts would agree they're about even after 24 rounds. So I suppose they exhibit a "low form of thinking" as well. And by the way, by your logic, Pac should've been disqualified for hitting Marquez while he was down in that first fight.

Going by their opposition since they last met: Pacquiao over Diaz, paper champ at 135. Marquez over Casamayor, lineal champ at 135 who had never been knocked out before. Advantage: Marquez. Pacquiao over DLH, who had not fought at 147 since 2001 and was weight drained, not to mention six years older and way past his prime. Marquez over Juan Diaz, who had only one loss, had never been knocked out before, and has fought between lightweight and light welter his whole career. He was also 10 yrs younger than JMM. Advantage: Marquez. Pacquiao over Hatton, who has never reached near the top 3 p4p. If Marquez were to beat Mayweather, he will beat the former lb 4 lb champ. That would put Marquez ahead of Pacquiao.

Lb for lb rankings are mythical and a consensus of the boxing community according to opposition and ability. In other words, a fighter doesn't have beat a fighter on the list to surpass him. Of course if Marquez beats Mayweather, the logical thing would be for JMM and Pac to fight a third time.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

You base your argument on what you think should've happened, and mine is the "lowest form of thinking"? HA HA...I'm not going by what should've happened. The fact is that JMM has won more rounds against Pac and they're separated by a point. Most boxing experts would agree they're about even after 24 rounds. So I suppose they exhibit a "low form of thinking" as well. And by the way, by your logic, Pac should've been disqualified for hitting Marquez while he was down in that first fight.

Going by their opposition since they last met: Pacquiao over Diaz, paper champ at 135. Marquez over Casamayor, lineal champ at 135 who had never been knocked out before. Advantage: Marquez. Pacquiao over DLH, who had not fought at 147 since 2001 and was weight drained, not to mention old and way past his prime. Marquez over Juan Diaz, who had only one loss, had never been knocked out before, and has fought between lightweight and light welter his whole career. He was also 10 yrs younger than JMM. Advantage: Marquez. Pacquiao over Hatton, who has never reached near the top 3 p4p. If Marquez were to beat Mayweather, he will beat the former lb 4 lb champ. That would put Marquez ahead of Pacquiao.

Lb for lb rankings are mythical and a consensus of the boxing community according to opposition and ability. In other words, a fighter doesn't have beat a fighter on the list to surpass him. Of course if Marquez beats Mayweather, the logical thing would be for JMM and Pac to fight a third time.

I definitely agree that they are basically even through 2 fights. I just hope that the fight vs FMJ doesnt physically ruin JMM & he actually wins or puts up a great fight & doesnt diminish a PAc vs JMM trilogy.

As for the casamayor lineal 135 lb win, didnt santa cruz get robbed bernie madoff style vs casamayor?

Didnt santa cruz get KTFO by David Diaz?

[Da Hammer]

JMM is fighting Floyd just so he can get another chance potentially with Pacquiao. That alone shows who the Marquez thinks the best fighter is!!! Like i said before Marquez is so obsessed with Pac that i would not be shocked if Marquez pulls a stunner and beats Floyd! Marquez wants one last crack at Pacquiao no matter the cost!!!!!!

[boxingfan76]

You base your argument on what you think should've happened, and mine is the "lowest form of thinking"? HA HA...I'm not going by what should've happened. The fact is that JMM has won more rounds against Pac and they're separated by a point. Most boxing experts would agree they're about even after 24 rounds. So I suppose they exhibit a "low form of thinking" as well. And by the way, by your logic, Pac should've been disqualified for hitting Marquez while he was down in that first fight.

Going by their opposition since they last met: Pacquiao over Diaz, paper champ at 135. Marquez over Casamayor, lineal champ at 135 who had never been knocked out before. Advantage: Marquez. Pacquiao over DLH, who had not fought at 147 since 2001 and was weight drained, not to mention six years older and way past his prime. Marquez over Juan Diaz, who had only one loss, had never been knocked out before, and has fought between lightweight and light welter his whole career. He was also 10 yrs younger than JMM. Advantage: Marquez. Pacquiao over Hatton, who has never reached near the top 3 p4p. If Marquez were to beat Mayweather, he will beat the former lb 4 lb champ. That would put Marquez ahead of Pacquiao.

Lb for lb rankings are mythical and a consensus of the boxing community according to opposition and ability. In other words, a fighter doesn't have beat a fighter on the list to surpass him. Of course if Marquez beats Mayweather, the logical thing would be for JMM and Pac to fight a third time.

im glad im not the only 1 pacnuthugger infestation in here

[boxingfan76]

Its called rules & regulation u alt. U dont win fights by winning the most round. Its called a 10 point system. Yes JMM won more rounds, he earned those.

But Pacquiao also scored knockdowns. He earned those. They mean something in boxing scoring.

U cant choose to ignore those little required rules in boxing b/c u hate a certain boxer & love another one.

U get a knockdown, u get a extra point. U talk about getting outconnected, yet u choose to ignore the four knockdowns that count in scoring a fight.

boxing is about hit and not getting hit, since when are the decs by judges always correct? how convenient that they are this time.jmm finished stronger period,especially in 2nd fight had any of those knockdowns been late in the fight i wouldnt say a thing, im not an alt but ill put your ass in the red even if i have to be biatch! coward your rep just went down also, you dont have to mess with peoples karma cuz you disagree, be a man pffff

[boxingfan76]

hate to break to you. But Pak did win the 2nd Match..

And he should have won the first.. but the judge didnt count one of the knock outs... and scored it wrong.

nuthugger judge, pac lost too many ronds for a win you can deny that all you want but your just bsing youself ,a guy that loses that many rnds gets repeatedly wobbled and gets healthily out connect doesnt desereve no win , i dont care what any judge says the fights are clear pac lost.gift gift gift.

[Doc Holliday]

I definitely agree that they are basically even through 2 fights. I just hope that the fight vs FMJ doesnt physically ruin JMM & he actually wins or puts up a great fight & doesnt diminish a PAc vs JMM trilogy.

As for the casamayor lineal 135 lb win, didnt santa cruz get robbed bernie madoff style vs casamayor?

Didnt santa cruz get KTFO by David Diaz?

About the lineal win, again, I'm going by what has actually happened. But by your logic, isn't that the same David Diaz who got a gift decision against Morales, who had already lost twice against Pac? In other words, why did Pac's mgmt take him on the path of least resistance in the 135 lb division?