David Haye - "Ricky Hatton vs. Amir Khan Must Happen"

[JAS_JAS]

fighters who lose punch resistance after getting knocked out is the biggest crock of **** ive had the displeasure of hearing & reading since religion.


How on earth could fighters like

roberto duran after getting ko'd by hearns
manny pacquiao after getting ko'd by torrecamp
barrera after getting ko'd by junior jones
frazier after getting ko'd by foreman


continue fighting & winning???????????

co-sign brah, people really love to hate and give excuses to their favorite fighter, its not even funny

[Pullcounter]

fighters who lose punch resistance after getting knocked out is the biggest crock of **** ive had the displeasure of hearing & reading since religion.


How on earth could fighters like

roberto duran after getting ko'd by hearns
manny pacquiao after getting ko'd by torrecamp
barrera after getting ko'd by junior jones
frazier after getting ko'd by foreman


continue fighting & winning???????????

all those dudes you listed are special boxers.

i'm not sure if hatton falls in the same category.

[WESS]

all those dudes you listed are special boxers.

i'm not sure if hatton falls in the same category.

How on earth could fighters like

roberto duran after getting ko'd by hearns
manny pacquiao after getting ko'd by torrecamp
barrera after getting ko'd by junior jones
frazier after getting ko'd by foreman

continue fighting & winning???????????

He forgot Jones Jr getting ko'ed by Tarver...

Wait............ nevermind......

[DonTaseMeBrah]

all those dudes you listed are special boxers.

i'm not sure if hatton falls in the same category.

Andre berto has gone down
Edwin Valero has gone down
kelly pavlik has gone down
miguel cotto has gone
luis collazo has gone down
juan freaking marquez has gone down
baby bull has gone down
ponce de leon has gone down
izzy vasquez has gone down
marquez has gone down

Should those fighters retire call it quits?


Some of those fighters are special. Some not.


Punch resistance is a fighter by fighter basis.



These morons who speak of punch resistance is gone after u get knocked down or beat up & take it as official gospel are the ones im talking to. Even journalist like colin heart & ian drake who talk about ricky's punch resistance as gone b/c of the hard partying & kostya tszyu wars & fraud jr ko.


which one is it?


Stop making excuses & trying to rationalize people's loses.


I guarantee u ricky hatton fights again & wins.

[Dave Rado]

When a good champ retires the next up and coming star says the champ retired because he didnt want to fight me.
For example Joe calzaghe was the next big thing in brit boxing. Steve collins could have fought JC but chose to retire instead.

Bad example, because Collins admitted he retired for that exact reason.

And no one would hold it against Hatton if he retired now. And no one would even think of claiming he was retiring in order to avoid Khan - that would be a ridiculous claim to make. At this stage, Bradley, or even Witter, would be a much bigger test than Khan.

As for anyone claiming that Calzaghe retired in order to avoid Froch, that's equally silly - if he'd kept going, everyone wanted him to fight either Dawson or Hopkins next, Froch wasn't in the mix at all at that time.

[Dave Rado]

Punch resistance is a fighter by fighter basis.

These morons who speak of punch resistance is gone after u get knocked down or beat up & take it as official gospel are the ones im talking to.

Those who think his punch resistance has gone are basing it mainly on the fact that Hatton was badly rocked in the 10th round of the Lazcano fight, and was arguably saved by the ref - because Lazcano isn't a huge puncher; and then this seemed to them to be confirmed by the fact that Pac hurt him so much more easily than he could hurt David Diaz, whom he also hit flush many times.

Personally I'd say the jury is still out on whether his punch resistance has completely gone, or whether it was more that he left his chin hanging out, he didn't see the punches coming, and the punches that got him were beautifully timed and perfectly placed punches. I suspect that it's somewhere in between, that his punch resistance is going but not completely gone.

But I think what's more important is that he doesn't have a style suited to longevity; he was supposed to be fine tuning his style with Floyd Snr, but completely ignored the game plan against Pac, and that because of this, I don't think he can beat any world class fighter any more, and should retire.

[pigdestroyer]

he's on stage, but he isn't the one with the microphone. i don't think he's one to advise others with their careers when his isn't all that reputable (just yet).

also, even though i don't think this fight will happen... he could be setting the tone for the next british star. he did advise hatton to take a good-bye fight in manchester.

so he may just be attempting to revive the british stardom in boxing, one taking their exit and one making a grand entrance.

[Datu Puti]

Haye is a ****in moron...comparing ping pong to boxing..the difference when you play your friend or someone you respect in ping pong is no one gets hit..How the **** do you expect to beat the **** out of the other fighter that you respect..Amir Khan can earn respect by fighting other fighters...Shows you the type of a friend HAYE would be a ****in backstabber...With that said, Amir will get KO..yeah he has power and speed but he is not in PACQUIAO's caliber yet, he is Malignaggi with power, but no chin..If Hatton connects one of his punches which is mostly power punches, Amir will definetly go down..Hatton should fight Junior Witter and beat his dumb ass cause that guy is like a Mayweather minus the skills...HATTON/ WITTER would be better than HATTON/KHAN.DAVID HAYE

[Datu Puti]

Those who think his punch resistance has gone are basing it mainly on the fact that Hatton was badly rocked in the 10th round of the Lazcano fight, and was arguably saved by the ref - because Lazcano isn't a huge puncher; and then this seemed to them to be confirmed by the fact that Pac hurt him so much more easily than he could hurt David Diaz, whom he also hit flush many times.

Personally I'd say the jury is still out on whether his punch resistance has completely gone, or whether it was more that he left his chin hanging out, he didn't see the punches coming, and the punches that got him were beautifully timed and perfectly placed punches. I suspect that it's somewhere in between, that his punch resistance is going but not completely gone.

But I think what's more important is that he doesn't have a style suited to longevity; he was supposed to be fine tuning his style with Floyd Snr, but completely ignored the game plan against Pac, and that because of this, I don't think he can beat any world class fighter any more, and should retire.

PUNCHES THAT CANNOT BE SEEN and lands flush will KO anyone with a suspect chin...It took longer to KO Diaz, because he saw most of the punches, if you look the punch that KO is the one he didn't see..Just like HATTON said he didn't see that left hook...plus it landed flush...A power punch that is not seen and landed plush, will KO anyone even if they have a strong chin.

[Dave Rado]

PUNCHES THAT CANNOT BE SEEN and lands flush will KO anyone with a suspect chin...It took longer to KO Diaz, because he saw most of the punches, if you look the punch that KO is the one he didn't see..Just like HATTON said he didn't see that left hook...plus it landed flush...A power punch that is not seen and landed plush, will KO anyone even if they have a strong chin.

I know, I said that in my post. And he didn't see the right hooks in the first round either. And he probably didn't see the Lazcano punches that rocked him either. I was just summarising what those who make the claim that his resistance has gone are basing it on. As I said, I think the jury is out on whether his resistance is gone, or whether it's going, or whether it's still as good as it was against Tszyu; but I suspect that it is going but that it isn't gone.

IMO, the punches (including Lazcano's punches) got to him so badly due to a mixture of the fact that he didn't see them, his chin was hanging out, the punches were perfectly timed and placed, and also that he's been in too many wars, and his resistance is going. IMO, there isn't enough evidence to say it's gone or that it hasn't gone, and I suspect the truth is somewhere in between.