Would Ike Ibeabuchi be champion if he didn't go to Jail?

[street bully]

Vitali or Wladimir would have put a beating on him, and knocked him out.

Then everybody would say he was just a bum, like they always do about the people Wlad & Vitali stop.

He walks through Tuia's best punches and left hooks and you say the Klitscko's would have knocked him out. Mind you he knocked the living **** out of the man who made Vitalli quit. Ibeabuchi would have totally ****D Wladomire and made him his *****, and would have put a 12 round session of pain on Vitalli and possibly stopped him due to cuts or forced himt o quit a la Chirs Byrd.

[street bully]

Too much muscle, too strong, not to mention the little "insanity" thing...I think that **** was probably just roid rage.

The guy was just too "much" overall, in my opinion.

Mind you, I'm not 100% sure he was on roids, but everybody else I've seen that looked and acted like that was.

Umm the guy was an African fighter. African fighters tend to be very muscular and compact. But thank you for pulling at straws. Next.

[Southpaw16BF]

Too much muscle, too strong, not to mention the little "insanity" thing...I think that **** was probably just roid rage.

The guy was just too "much" overall, in my opinion.

Mind you, I'm not 100% sure he was on roids, but everybody else I've seen that looked and acted like that was.

Hmmm....To be honest you just can't put it down to steroids or say he done them, lots of greats fighters have always been a few screws short. And they have never touched steroids, over the years there have been many from Tony Ayala Jr, to Carlos Monzon, to recently James Kirkland and many more.

[Stickman]

He walks through Tuia's best punches and left hooks and you say the Klitscko's would have knocked him out. Mind you he knocked the living **** out of the man who made Vitalli quit. Ibeabuchi would have totally ****D Wladomire and made him his *****, and would have put a 12 round session of pain on Vitalli and possibly stopped him due to cuts or forced himt o quit a la Chirs Byrd.

I think he'd have had a good chance of stopping Wlad, yes...Vitali? The guy's never been knocked down, or even behind on the cards in a fight. Think about that: He's never been behind on the cards once during his entire professional career. Even in his two losses, he was ahead at the time they were stopped. Vitali (prime for prime, here), I think, would've brutalized him much the same he did Peter. The only difference is that Ike had much higher work rate, and was in better shape. I still think Vitali stops him late. The man is a monster.

As for Byrd "making" Vitali quit....have you even seen that fight? He tore a rotator cuff rounds earlier, and was still ahead on the cards when he and his corner decided the risk of permanent damage to the shoulder was too great, and forfeited.

[Southpaw16BF]

Pictures of Ike in jail


Ike in his fighting days....

[Stickman]

Umm the guy was an African fighter. African fighters tend to be very muscular and compact. But thank you for pulling at straws. Next.

Don't talk **** to me about "pulling at straws", and don't beat around the bush like a sissy. If you have something to imply, just do it, don't be a chicken **** and allude to it.

Whether he was on 'roids or not, nobody can say, and that's my opinion. And I've seen plenty of African fighters that were strong, tough guys that didn't look anything like Ike. Hell, Peter was also Nigerian, looked nothing like Ike. But, then there are genetic freaks everywhere, and it's possible (however remotely) that he was built like that naturally.

[Southpaw16BF]

I think he'd have had a good chance of stopping Wlad, yes...Vitali? The guy's never been knocked down, or even behind on the cards in a fight. Think about that: He's never been behind on the cards once during his entire professional career. Even in his two losses, he was ahead at the time they were stopped. Vitali (prime for prime, here), I think, would've brutalized him much the same he did Peter. The only difference is that Ike had much higher work rate, and was in better shape. I still think Vitali stops him late. The man is a monster.

As for Byrd "making" Vitali quit....have you even seen that fight? He tore a rotator cuff rounds earlier, and was still ahead on the cards when he and his corner decided the risk of permanent damage to the shoulder was too great, and forfeited.

Do it wasn't done in a boxing ring, Vitali has been knocked out, it is belived in a Kickboxing match up, against Pele Reid, who would go on to be a british based heavyweight in the UK.

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/1770/2005-08-09/The-Man-Who-Knocked-Vitali-Klitschko-Out-What-Really-Happened-

[IMDAZED]

Don't talk **** to me about "pulling at straws", and don't beat around the bush like a sissy. If you have something to imply, just do it, don't be a chicken **** and allude to it.

Whether he was on 'roids or not, nobody can say, and that's my opinion. And I've seen plenty of African fighters that were strong, tough guys that didn't look anything like Ike. Hell, Peter was also Nigerian, looked nothing like Ike. But, then there are genetic freaks everywhere, and it's possible (however remotely) that he was built like that naturally.

Regardless, it's a little silly to go on about Vitali while claiming you suspect Ike used steroids when...Vitali has tested positive for it in the amateurs and Ike never did.

[Stickman]

Hmmm....To be honest you just can't put it down to steroids or say he done them, lots of greats fighters have always been a few screws short. And they have never touched steroids, over the years there have been many from Tony Ayala Jr, to Carlos Monzon, to recently James Kirkland and many more.

Right, that's why I don't imply it's fact, just a likelihood in my opinion. Sometimes guys just have a screw loose naturally. The other thing is his stamina, and build. Usually guys with a build like that will gas if they have a high work rate, but Ike threw for the entire fight and still seemed fairly fresh. Again, it's at least possible he came by it naturally, though.

[Stickman]

Regardless, it's a little silly to go on about Vitali while claiming you suspect Ike used steroids when...Vitali has tested positive for it in the amateurs and Ike never did.

I think you're misunderstanding me a little, here. I don't really care if Ike was roided up. I'm just saying that, in my opinion, he probably was, and would've eventually been caught before he cleaned out the division.