Who is the most overated overhyped fraud of all-time

[broxi51]

past has to be rid**** bowe for *****ing ouy of facing lewis, especially not avenging the defeat at the olympics.


hatton was majorly overhyed because of his popularity and kessler is overhyped at the moment, because he has not faced the best in his division, except for calzaghe which he lost. He might be the best at his division but the other champions are facing better opposition than he is, you have no rights to claim to be best at your weight. I know he trying to get out of the 3 fight contract but he shouldn't have so naive to sign it the first place.

[TheGreatA]

Good point about the maxim retirement, very interesting compelling interview about ali's personality. I agree that dempsey has no excuse for his career after winning the title, but I stand by my belief that he was the best there was at his peak. Also, good point about dempsey's hollywood career.

Another thing. Ali's interview reminded me of how dempsey earned his title shot, which no one thought he deserved either. Instead of talking, he beat the number 1 and number 2 contenders in a combined roughly 30 seconds. He probably couldn't have talked his way into a title shot. He also never needed to talk to attract attention or get rich. His fighting drew the biggest crowds in history.

I agree that you shouldn't judge a fighter on their behavior out of the ring. In the case of ali and robinson, though, I think it crosses over. In the ring, neither seemed to enjoy themselves the way dempsey did and I think it made them lesser fighters.

I do agree that the top places in history should belong to fighters who fought the best for their entire careers, which dempsey didn't do. I wonder, though, who you have in mind when you say that. Certainly Ali and Robinson are high on that list. Who would you have in the top spot? I think of Ali as avoiding a rematch with Foreman and Robinson as having ducked Charley Burley to some extent as well as some other guys. Ali also changed his style to some degree as he got older. As far as career's go, I guess I agree with everyone that Robinson's takes the cake.

I rate Harry Greb and Henry Armstrong very highly.

[glidesmack]

How blind do you think greb was? I heard he was blind in one eye and half blind in the other. He seemed to drive cars, but also get in lots of accidents. I guess I'd say he was pretty blind, but not completely blind.

Oh **** I just remembered another one. Joe Louis. Gotta rate up with greb armstrong ali and robinson for legendary careers. That's five, you got any others?