A prime welterweight tito trinidad destroys miguel cotto

[Jay26]

If I may interject

Prior to the Mosley/Margarito showdown, nobody was cracking on Margs fighting ability. Everyone thought he was possibly the baddest mofo in a good long time at the division. So now everyone is cracking on Cotto's loss on it, when it was considered one of the best fights in modern history against two of the top WW since the Tito/DLH era. I mean why are we having short memories all of a sudden and down playing Cotto due to it? Sure he disgraced himself, but just 12 months ago Margarito was the talk of the town. Lets not downplay it now to fit your agendas.

Secondly, Tito would not ****/MURDER/DESTROY Cotto. It would be highly competitive and can go either way. Cotto's power is just a notch below Tito. People fold like tents when Cotto goes to the body. For all the physical gifts/advantages Tito had...he didn't always capitalize on them. He never used that reach, height. Just the left hook; and honestly, I will compare both men's left hook prowress.

And I would always favor a fighter who has more versatility in their arsenal. Cotto can box southpaw, orthodox, from the outside, inside. He can go bull headed or fight coming off angles. Tito only fights one way. Cotto may not put on a boxing clinic like WW or DLH did, but he sure enough do enough to throw Trinidad off his game plan.

They both have quality beards and take abuse. Margarito NEVER knocked down Cotto, even with the possibility of harden substances. The only time Cotto ever was hurt when the 140 lb limit was visibly sapping away at his power. At 147, he can take bombs with the best of them.

This fight is a toss up and I can see a KO for either of them and UD for Cotto; but to say that Tito trashes is premature. Cotto may very well be the second christening of the WW division. His resume is very solid and he is poised for bigger things.

They are both two of my favorite fighters and I probably wouldn't even watch it cause it'd be rather painful, but Tito just isn't going to sweep him like he's a D class fighter.

AND...people are bringing up Vargas? Vargas? He's been overrated since birth

Tito took his ******ity, DLH took his manhood and Cotto would take his life. Get out of here, no 'era' of Vargas can hold a jockstrap to Cotto.

Co-Sign.....Very nice post....not because you on anyway agree with what I'm saying,but because is non biased and build on "FACTS".

[F-22 Raptor]

man TS sucks

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

If I may interject

Prior to the Mosley/Margarito showdown, nobody was cracking on Margs fighting ability. Everyone thought he was possibly the baddest mofo in a good long time at the division. So now everyone is cracking on Cotto's loss on it, when it was considered one of the best fights in modern history against two of the top WW since the Tito/DLH era. I mean why are we having short memories all of a sudden and down playing Cotto due to it? Sure he disgraced himself, but just 12 months ago Margarito was the talk of the town. Lets not downplay it now to fit your agendas.

First off we aren't compairing Marg to Cotto or Marg to Tito, we are compairing Tito to Cotto so all that doesn't matter. Styles make fights and this is the match up we are concentrating on. Plus, Marg was feared because of his chin, nobody I can remember was talking about Marg being a great skilled boxer and the last I checked, Cotto was a heavy favorite in that fight vs Marg....

Secondly, Tito would not ****/MURDER/DESTROY Cotto. It would be highly competitive and can go either way. Cotto's power is just a notch below Tito. People fold like tents when Cotto goes to the body. For all the physical gifts/advantages Tito had...he didn't always capitalize on them. He never used that reach, height. Just the left hook; and honestly, I will compare both men's left hook prowress.

I agree it would be competative but to say Cotto's power is just one notch under Tito is a stretch. Very few fighters have one punch KO power, Tito had it, Cotto doesn't even come close.

And I would always favor a fighter who has more versatility in their arsenal. Cotto can box southpaw, orthodox, from the outside, inside. He can go bull headed or fight coming off angles. Tito only fights one way. Cotto may not put on a boxing clinic like WW or DLH did, but he sure enough do enough to throw Trinidad off his game plan.

We all agree he's the better boxer but would Tito's size and power difference be too much. Tito had a great left hook, something Marg was hitting Cotto with frequently. I think every avantage in skill is on Cotto's side but he still wouldn't be able to overcome Tito's raw size and power. Tito at any time could end the fight with Cotto, I don't see Cotto having that same advantage.

They both have quality beards and take abuse. Margarito NEVER knocked down Cotto, even with the possibility of harden substances. The only time Cotto ever was hurt when the 140 lb limit was visibly sapping away at his power. At 147, he can take bombs with the best of them.

Actually, Marg wasn't really getting clean shots to Cotto's head until after the 9th round. He was reaching him to the body more than anything else. Tito really didn't have a great chin and I would give that edge to Cotto but I still don't think his chin is up to tito's power.

This fight is a toss up and I can see a KO for either of them and UD for Cotto; but to say that Tito trashes is premature. Cotto may very well be the second christening of the WW division. His resume is very solid and he is poised for bigger things.

Cotto is a good solid fighter but hasn't put in the merits that Tito has. At this point in time Tito > Cotto all day. Cotto has yet to fight the best in the division and any talk about him being great is premature.

They are both two of my favorite fighters and I probably wouldn't even watch it cause it'd be rather painful, but Tito just isn't going to sweep him like he's a D class fighter.

AND...people are bringing up Vargas? Vargas? He's been overrated since birth

Tito took his ******ity, DLH took his manhood and Cotto would take his life. Get out of here, no 'era' of Vargas can hold a jockstrap to Cotto.

You need to get schooled on a prime Vargas. He had every dissadvantage against Tito and gave him one hell of a fight. He was nowhere near the potential he should have been in that fight and he still gave a prime Tito all he could handle. He also beat Winky, even though it was very close......

Vargas was a beast in his prime and I think him and Cotto would be a war.....

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

This Vargas?

ssm beat a vargas who was done lost twice vs tito and dlh and bad and was never even close to the same also ssm lost to cotto but hes also not the same ssm from b4

[Pullcounter]

tito's overhand right and uppercut destroys cotto. tito's pressure would have cotto running hard and gassing out. cotto has no power fighting off his back foot.
cotto can run all he wants but eventually tito will catch up to him and destroy him.

if margo (who is slow as ****) can do it, cotto can do it 50x over. nevermind if margo used plaster or not, the point is, cotto should have outboxed margo easily to at 12 round decision. cotto was performing brilliantly in the first couple rounds and then he gassed.

tito ruins cotto.

[mindreader]

With or without plaster?????????

That's Cotto's kryptinite(SP?)

[JmH Reborn]

I can't quote you directly so I'll respond the best I can.

--I bring up Margarito fight because there are several posts saying that Margs' ''slow'' self tagged Cotto, then Tito can too. All of a sudden, Margs is a slow and paltry fighter, where less than a year ago, Margs had all the goods, reach, chin, power and heart etc etc. And yes he didn't hit Cotto alot until after Cotto was worn from the body punishment, and although no proof, if just seems evident of substances. His chin was otherwordly that's for sure and I'm not sure if anyone's power would have KOd him that night. At the very least, he may have won, but Cotto's punishment on him had lasting effects as evident in the Mosely fight. But enough bout that.

--We agree that it wouldn't be a thrashing, that's cool. I still think they're power is rather similar. Tito gets the edge, but I honestly don't think it's by that much. Cotto just has a different approach. Tito likes to wind up and go for the gusto; Cotto likes to chop you down.

--This ties up to the above argument; Tito had that raw power and KO ability, but he never truly used his advantages and I just think Cotto would take advantage of it. Tito's defense is less than stellar at times and I think he'd be open to the body, where Cotto can do his signature damage.

--Cotto and Tito's resumes are eerily similar man at this point in Cotto's career...Margarito, Clottey and SSM were/are all top WWs. What's missing from Cotto at the moment? He doesn't have that 'Pernel Whitaker' namesake, thats for sure; but Floyd is back so who knows. The biggest thing is that Tito had like what 14 title defenses and that is exceptional and Cotto can't compete at the moment, but the quality of opposition I think is truly there and will get better, especially if PacMan and Floyd fights do happen.

--For Vargas, I've seen alot of his fights and he was a bully until he fought someone who can **** back. I see a fight with Cotto going the same way like DLH fight. It would be a war until Cotto just physically abuses him.