Higher ATG: Manny or Julio Cesar Chavez (Sr)?

[beats are us]

i voted senior..

[wizard king]

jcc hands down. pacman would have to do alot more to surpasss jcc

[bishop2006]

Chavez beat won 90 consecutive time with names like

Rocky Lockridge
Juan La Porte
Edwin Rosario
Roger Mayweather X 2
Meldrick Taylor X 2
Hector Camacho
Greg Haugen

And Pac beat Barrera x2,Morales x2,Marquez,DLH,Hatton,Pac has the better names on his record IMO,everytime Chavez stepped it up he didnt look as good,Pernell took him to school and left him in detention and got robbed with a draw,Taylor was schoolin him until the controversial end

Pac knocked out two of the best mexican fighters ever,Barrera and Morales

[boojee]

oh ****. jcc is leading, line up all the pedicab drivers in gensan!! asap!

[El Dominicano]

oh ****. jcc is leading, line up all the pedicab drivers in gensan!! asap!

Well, I already saw this coming

[boojee]

this thread is an insult to Manny.

but comapring Floyd's resume is an insult to both Pac and JCC

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

And Pac beat Barrera x2,Morales x2,Marquez,DLH,Hatton,Pac has the better names on his record IMO,everytime Chavez stepped it up he didnt look as good,Pernell took him to school and left him in detention and got robbed with a draw,Taylor was schoolin him until the controversial end

Pac knocked out two of the best mexican fighters ever,Barrera and Morales

Yea and they were both about 6 years removed from their prime, let's be real here.

DLH, Barerra and Morales were not in their prime when Pac fought them and Morales beat him!

JCC has the better resume up until now. It's like DLH or Tzsu taking credit for beating JCC....he was a done fighter by that time.

[Chups]

Yea and they were both about 6 years removed from their prime, let's be real here.

DLH, Barerra and Morales were not in their prime when Pac fought them and Morales beat him!

JCC has the better resume up until now. It's like DLH or Tzsu taking credit for beating JCC....he was a done fighter by that time.

Barrera was. The excuse was not being past prime but wildfires and uninspired.

[oldgringo]

Julio Cesar Chavez fought 64 times from 1984 to 1998. This period covers his win over Ramon Avita (4 months before his first title win) to his second loss to Oscar De La Hoya in 1998. He had the 64 total fights and finished with 59 wins, 3 defeats and 2 fights drawn. During this time he campaigned at 130, 135, 140 and 147. Some of his best accomplishments:

-WBC Super Featherweight champion (9 defenses of WBC title)
-WBA/WBC Lightweight champion (2 defenses of WBA title)
-Two-time WBC/One-time IBF Junior Welterweight champion (16 defenses of WBC title/2 defenses of IBF title)
-Defeated one fighter currently enshrined in the IBHOF (E. Rosario)
-Defeated other notable opponents like Mario Martinez, Roger Mayweather, Juan LaPorte, Bazooka Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez, Meldrick Taylor, Hector Camacho, Greg Haugen, Frankie Randall, Giovanni Parisi and Tony Lopez.

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A little recap on the meat and potatoes of Chavez' career. The guy had an absurd amount of title defenses and fought more championship rounds than just about anyone throughout history. It IS complete bull**** when people say he fought nothing but scrubs. He fought several very good opponents and beat them. nobody will approach that type of record again....at least not with the comp. Sr. faced.

[AntonTheMeh]

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