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  • Walt Liquor
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    #91
    Originally posted by Eaner0919
    http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/modern.html

    you mean to tell me both Chico and JLC don't stand up to some on this list?
    Not sure what you and that other guy were arguing about, but this is a damn good thread starter. Gonna do it on your behalf.

    I didn't feel like reading all the bickering but Baldy and Judah, would never be considered for induction, but these two would make an interesting discussion.

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    • D-Omonist
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      #92
      Originally posted by The_Executioner
      Castillo, Corrales, Hatton, old DLH, Judah, G.Hernandez >old Mosley, Judah, Quintana, Malignaggi, and Torres
      It's crazy how everyone is old and shouldn't fight. That Mosley that fought Cotto would take out a lot of prime boxers.

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      • Walt Liquor
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        #93
        Originally posted by sunny31
        I don't think judah is a notch or 2 below castillo or corrales, that is over-stated. He is probably on that level. Chico is a 2 weight world champ, as is judah. Castillo was a top notch lw in his prime. It is hard for me to separate them to be honest. They have all fought some of the best fighters in and around their weight class.
        Judah was never the best in his weight class, and lost to all of the elite fighters he faced (except Spinks and his "eliteness" is debateable). Both those guys have some elite wins, no matter how close they were.

        Chico beat freitas when he was like 34-0 or something
        JLC beat Stevie Johnston in his prime

        Plus a couple of other wins that were very impressive, not to mention their first fight.

        Don't think either make the HOF though.

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          #94
          Originally posted by D-Omonist
          It's crazy how everyone is old and shouldn't fight. That Mosley that fought Cotto would take out a lot of prime boxers.
          He would but he's still old...

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          • sunny31
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            #95
            Originally posted by Walt Liquor
            Judah was never the best in his weight class, and lost to all of the elite fighters he faced (except Spinks and his "eliteness" is debateable). Both those guys have some elite wins, no matter how close they were.

            Chico beat freitas when he was like 34-0 or something
            JLC beat Stevie Johnston in his prime

            Plus a couple of other wins that were very impressive, not to mention their first fight.

            Don't think either make the HOF though.
            Yeah maybe I agree with you, I think the spinks win was just as good as the johnston and freitas wins, but yeah maybe the other 2 do have better resume's. I suppose chico trilogy with casa even though he lost 2, castillo also fought casa and pushed mayweather much closer than the other 2.

            I don't think it is as black and white as the other guy was saying, especially saying things like oscar would have problems with corrales is simply laughable. But yeah having broken it down I would put them above judah

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            • Eaner0919
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              #96
              Originally posted by sunny31
              I don't think judah is a notch or 2 below castillo or corrales, that is over-stated. He is probably on that level. Chico is a 2 weight world champ, as is judah. Castillo was a top notch lw in his prime. It is hard for me to separate them to be honest. They have all fought some of the best fighters in and around their weight class.

              but here is where I seperate those two from Judah which is why I seperated Judah from Baldomir even though I know he beat Judah, Judah has accomplished more.

              other than Cory Spinks he never had any signifigant wins. In fact you would be hard pressed to find much in terms of second tier victorys. Maybe Witter and Corley but for the most part while he possesed elite talent rarely did he put it all together and shown how he could be.

              Chico and JLC IMO have less natural talent than Judah yet both you could say they have accomplished more and have won against better fighters than has Judah

              as for Baldy he has shown out to be nothing more than a Cinderella story and one who capitalized on the above's lack of focus

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              • MANGLER
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                #97
                Only **** missin is at 147. South of that Mr boat buyer's res is solid.

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                  #98
                  To me, I like what he has done, could he have done more for sure ( I don't exactly understand the reason for a year an a half layoff right when your star gets big) but what he actually did was pretty damn good.

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                  • Eaner0919
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Smash
                    Ill explain again for the hard of learning. I said corrales and castillo are closer to juddah and baldo than the likes of floyd and pac and you and el ******o throw your rattlers out of your prams. Did you read my previous post where i mentioned numbers to explain to el ******o, it may be basic but i hoped even the hard of learning could understand it.

                    Maybe your angry because i dont agree that your two boys should be in the hof. I never said that juddah was better than them i just think they fall short of the top elite guys.
                    no here is exactly what you said:

                    Id place castillo and chico closer to the juddahs and baldos of this world.


                    now if you had stopped there maybe I could see it for Judah's (one "d" btw) but never Baldomir's

                    nope you added

                    but slightly above them.
                    that's where I highly disagree with you and explained to sunny why

                    and I probably did read something about numbers but it looks like others already ****ted on your posts so why bother?

                    and explain to me just how you think Baldo is slightly below either JLC or Chico

                    and yes while Chico may have been a friend to me at least I know enough about his career to be able to debate it with some knowledge.

                    you? not so much

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                    • Eaner0919
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                      Not sure what you and that other guy were arguing about, but this is a damn good thread starter. Gonna do it on your behalf.

                      I didn't feel like reading all the bickering but Baldy and Judah, would never be considered for induction, but these two would make an interesting discussion.
                      I think thats the point

                      while yes IMO I do think both Chico and JLC deserve and have the credentials to be in the hall, them being mentioned as only slight above Baldomir (his words not mine) is ludacrisp? Judah yeah that can be debated and I stated my case but Baldy?

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