Cotto, Valero are Both Options For Pacquiao, Says Arum

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  • gopi11
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    #21
    Originally posted by Mr._Pink
    lol

    that's a good one , pogi.

    i'll bet you cotto will take the catchweight instead with a weigh in the day before. lol



    where's benny? i gotta find benny. he'll be all for this idea.

    I think the main reason that Freddie keeps insisting on a catch weight is to limit Pacman's obvious weight disadvantage against his opponent the night of the fight. That's what I thought of as a viable solution. No catch weight, same day weigh-in. if Cotto gains 20 pounds in an hour and a half, then so be it! lol

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      #22
      Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
      nobody wants to see Pac/Velero, Arum is full of ****. and the only reason arum is pushin so hard for a Pac/Cotto fight is cause he promotes both fighters so thats more money for 4 him. Pac/PBF is the fight people want to see
      and lil fraud's critics want cotto-may.

      arum is just bitching around....belittling big mouth so he don't ask too much $$ and price himself out of the match.
      let's see how lil fraud performs against midget marquez and take it from there.....ok?

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        #23
        Originally posted by jetgeomcx
        manny fought oscar at a catch weight of 145....


        They fought at 147 jet, no catch weight, more of a meet weight...

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        • Pretty Boy32
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          #24
          I hate bob arum,
          hes duckin floyd cos this is a win-win situation for him.
          If cotto beats manny, it redeems him for his loss to marg.
          If Valero beats him he will grab the publics eye for beating the "best fighter of the decade,"
          stop ducking floyd!!!

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            #25
            Originally posted by jching
            Arum's a greedy old f*ggot, who I'm pretty sure has some kind of sick sexual attraction towards Manny.

            People don't wanna see an unfair fight against Cotto. At a catchweight its unfair for Cotto, at 147 its unfair for Manny. Pacquiao/PBF is a fair fight at whatever weight and is the fight people want to see, but Arum is afraid that should Manny lose he will not be seen as "the best fighter of all time" which is what he is trying to make him into, through his very clever tactics of choosing fighters.
            that's why they fyt in the middle at 144, both fair and unfair for both of them.
            cotto has his WW belt at stake,..lil fraud has nothing to offer. hehehe,...now im bithching you jching.

            care to read my sig below to remind you??

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              #26
              Originally posted by Pretty Boy32
              I hate bob arum,
              hes duckin floyd cos this is a win-win situation for him.
              If cotto beats manny, it redeems him for his loss to marg.
              If Valero beats him he will grab the publics eye for beating the "best fighter of the decade,"
              stop ducking floyd!!!
              micky ward hates bob arum too!...speaking of one thing in common

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                #27
                Originally posted by gopi11
                I think the main reason that Freddie keeps insisting on a catch weight is to limit Pacman's obvious weight disadvantage against his opponent the night of the fight. That's what I thought of as a viable solution. No catch weight, same day weigh-in. if Cotto gains 20 pounds in an hour and a half, then so be it! lol
                freddie sees pacquiao at a big disadvantage at 147.

                hell pacquiao is a at a big size disadvantage at 140 against most guys tbh.

                freddie is just doing what any trainer would do and look out for his fighter.

                this is not a case of say floyd being 147 champ and campaigning at 147 yet not wanting to fight big 147 guys , his fighter is a 135 guy really who is willing to fight at 140 and 147 for big fights and big paydays.

                if manny who should be fighting at 135 is willing to meet guys so much bigger than him for the big money and big name fights , then guys should be willing to concede a little bit back as well.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Pretty Boy32
                  I hate bob arum,
                  hes duckin floyd cos this is a win-win situation for him.
                  If cotto beats manny, it redeems him for his loss to marg.
                  If Valero beats him he will grab the publics eye for beating the "best fighter of the decade,"
                  stop ducking floyd!!!

                  I think Bob's not ducking for Manny, it's more like a leverage in the negotiating table (PBF, Haymon), but you do have a point. It's a win-win situation for Arum. He'll let Cotto fight Pac as long as he re-signs with Top Rank, either way, he will still have the winner of the fight in his stable. If Valero managed to upset the applecart and beat Pacman, he will have a new "Pacman" to build up on...

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Pretty Boy32
                    I hate bob arum,hes duckin floyd cos this is a win-win situation for him.If cotto beats manny, it redeems him for his loss to marg.If Valero beats him he will grab the publics eye for beating the "best fighter of the decade,"stop ducking floyd!!!
                    Gay, floyd ducks everyone, stop crying.You **** support Floyd ducking, but not other people.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                      freddie sees pacquiao at a big disadvantage at 147.

                      hell pacquiao is a at a big size disadvantage at 140 against most guys tbh.

                      freddie is just doing what any trainer would do and look out for his fighter.

                      this is not a case of say floyd being 147 champ and campaigning at 147 yet not wanting to fight big 147 guys , his fighter is a 135 guy really who is willing to fight at 140 and 147 for big fights and big paydays.

                      if manny who should be fighting at 135 is willing to meet guys so much bigger than him for the big money and big name fights , then guys should be willing to concede a little bit back as well.
                      Agree.

                      If you really look at it, Pac doesn't have to fight Cotto or Shane or Floyd. He can stick with fighters at 140. The biggest Fan interest would still be Floyd but....................

                      Pac's not a 135 fighter anymore. Freddie explained this. Pac told him that they were moving up to 140 because 135 was to hard to make. Pac showed up at 147 for his fight with Diaz. He even said Pac was as high as 152 with 6% bodyfat during the Oscar training.

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