When fighters jump up in weight..

[Xyei]

that reminds me of the BHop quote. I forgot exactly how it goes but it was in reference to his fight with Pavlik

"how will he react once he steps in the ring with me and realizes he's been lied to. that's not a shot 43 year old man"

some **** like that

Yeah, that quote is classic.

[rizkybizness]

Yeah, that quote is classic.

indeed it is.

i think he says "initial shock" somewhere in there.

[BattlingNelson]

To get a big fight and not because they are having trouble making the said weight, why do they put on the weight if they think it will hurt their speed? I see people saying that Marquez will not be as fast at 144 or whatever ****in goofy weight they are having the fight at. I don't disagree with that statement but if he really thinks it will hurt him, why not just weigh in at 135-140 then? Same with Hatton when he fought Floyd. If he was so much better at 140, why did he not come in at 140 for the weigh in? Fuck the 7 pounds.

If the added weight will not help you, why bother gaining it if you honestly think you would fight better 5-10 pounds lighter? Is there a rule against this that I have overlooked?

Because NOT gaining the weight hurts the fighter more. 2 quick reasons:

1: They''ll have less weight i.e. power behind the punches meaning that the opponent will feel it like being hit with a flyswatter.
2: The clinches will wear them down. The bigger opponent uses the weight to lean and force the other fighter into bad positioning.

[DarchinyFAN]

Extra weight probably helps absorb the shock of the punches from the larger man.

Also, though a fighter might not get that much added strength, and it isnt directly proportional to the weight they put on, some power is added, simply because of the extra weight behind the punches....

Still in theory if you game isnt power anyway, and your defense might suffer leading to you taking more punches, then you shouldn't go in at the maximum weight possible since it will negate the two "advantages" I mentioned.

Also, boxers are people too, and most are coming down from higher weights to fit into lower classes, so if they don't feel they have to lose as much they won't. This doesnt effect guys like Mayweather, Hopkins, Jones etc etc that stay in relatively good shape anyway.

[Xyei]

Because NOT gaining the weight hurts the fighter more. 2 quick reasons:

1: They''ll have less weight i.e. power behind the punches meaning that the opponent will feel it like being hit with a flyswatter.
2: The clinches will wear them down. The bigger opponent uses the weight to lean and force the other fighter into bad positioning.

Good points. Let me continue the conversation.

Do you really think it would hurt the fighter more by not gaining weight in all cases?

1. I don't necessarily think extra weight automatically means extra power. If you gain the weight properly, sure. But many fighters obviously don't do this correctly.

2. If the guy weighs less and is much faster than his opponent, he won't have to worry about getting caught in a clinch. He would be able to use movement/speed to elude the clinch.

Extra weight probably helps absorb the shock of the punches from the larger man.

Also, though a fighter might not get that much added strength, and it isnt directly proportional to the weight they put on, some power is added, simply because of the extra weight behind the punches....

Still in theory if you game isnt power anyway, and your defense might suffer leading to you taking more punches, then you shouldn't go in at the maximum weight possible since it will negate the two "advantages" I mentioned.

Also, boxers are people too, and most are coming down from higher weights to fit into lower classes, so if they don't feel they have to lose as much they won't. This doesnt effect guys like Mayweather, Hopkins, Jones etc etc that stay in relatively good shape anyway.

Good points.

[Pullcounter]

To get a big fight and not because they are having trouble making the said weight, why do they put on the weight if they think it will hurt their speed? I see people saying that Marquez will not be as fast at 144 or whatever ****in goofy weight they are having the fight at. I don't disagree with that statement but if he really thinks it will hurt him, why not just weigh in at 135-140 then? Same with Hatton when he fought Floyd. If he was so much better at 140, why did he not come in at 140 for the weigh in? Fuck the 7 pounds.

If the added weight will not help you, why bother gaining it if you honestly think you would fight better 5-10 pounds lighter? Is there a rule against this that I have overlooked?

jmm doesn't have to come in at 143, he can come in lower than that... it could just be a strategy to get floyd to get down to 143.

[blind4]

because they are fighthing in a division, if they don't want to go the maximum weight then if they are figthing at WW the lowest he can go is 141lbs, there not going to fight one at 135 and the other at 147