When fighters jump up in weight..

[rizkybizness]

To get a big fight and not because they are having trouble making the said weight, why do they put on the weight if they think it will hurt their speed? I see people saying that Marquez will not be as fast at 144 or whatever ****in goofy weight they are having the fight at. I don't disagree with that statement but if he really thinks it will hurt him, why not just weigh in at 135-140 then? Same with Hatton when he fought Floyd. If he was so much better at 140, why did he not come in at 140 for the weigh in? Fuck the 7 pounds.

If the added weight will not help you, why bother gaining it if you honestly think you would fight better 5-10 pounds lighter? Is there a rule against this that I have overlooked?

i completely agree. no point in lugging around extra weight if it'll hinder your performance.

[Ido]

It’s a misconception to regard Marquez slow at 135. This is brought up, by how he looked in front of Diaz. And peddle back, that Floyd is just as fast as Diaz. Truth be told, Floyd would look slow in front of Diaz. Because Diaz swarms his opponents with flurries.

[Xyei]

a lot of boxers make the mistake of putting on more muscle (i.e. shane) which hurts their speed.

pacquiao did it the good way. notice how his ring weight is about the same his last 4 fights even though he jumped from 130-135 and 147-140?

all he did was cut less the higher he moved up which helped him as well.

henry armstrong never bothered to put on weight either. when he challenged for the 160 belt against cerefino garcia (another great pinoy fighter. ) he barely weighed over 140.

Good post Tua. Thanks for the little history lesson at the end. And yes, I agree about Pac carrying the extra bulk effectively. Unbelieveable how well he's carried his power whilst jumping up and around in weight like that.

LOL

that is NOT his point

larry, my man - the world doesnt revolve around floyd. abos is just talking about weight, he's not specifically tryin to take shots at the floyd/jmm fight.

thanks.

Yes, this is correct. I just used it as an example since this is the current number one topic around here.

I could just as easily have used the Hopkins vs. Pavlik fight.

i completely agree. no point in lugging around extra weight if it'll hinder your performance.

I think sometimes, the fighters get too hung up on the weight and it costs them.

[MANGLER]

$ talks louder than common sense sumtimes. And JMM don't give a ****. Dude's on a mission. I wouldn't doubt he seriously sees Mr boat buyer as his tuneup for a 3rd Pac fight. He's obsessed and won't rest til he gets to Pac. It's gonna get him hurt in this fight, but that's what warrior's do. War Dinamita!

[rizkybizness]

Good post Tua. Thanks for the little history lesson at the end. And yes, I agree about Pac carrying the extra bulk effectively. Unbelieveable how well he's carried his power whilst jumping up and around in weight like that.


Yes, this is correct. I just used it as an example since this is the current number one topic around here.

I could just as easily have used the Hopkins vs. Pavlik fight.



I think sometimes, the fighters get too hung up on the weight and it costs them.

yup, fighters sometimes get too hung up on weight. ive also noticed that people have the misconception that being heavier automatically means more power - that's not always the case

[WhoreUs]

It’s a misconception to regard Marquez slow at 135. This is brought up, by how he looked in front of Diaz. And peddle back, that Floyd is just as fast as Diaz. Truth be told, Floyd would look slow in front of Diaz. Because Diaz swarms his opponents with flurries.

marquez doesn't look good to me at 135.

not at all.

[rizkybizness]

marquez doesn't look good to me at 135.

not at all.

you're a pac fan

no one looks good @ any weight besides pac

[larry x]

hold up,hold up...the world doesnt revolve around floyd??(scratches head..curses...ive been lied to)

[rizkybizness]

hold up,hold up...the world doesnt revolve around floyd??(scratches head..curses...ive been lied to)

that reminds me of the BHop quote. I forgot exactly how it goes but it was in reference to his fight with Pavlik

"how will he react once he steps in the ring with me and realizes he's been lied to. that's not a shot 43 year old man"

some **** like that

[Pullcounter]

To get a big fight and not because they are having trouble making the said weight, why do they put on the weight if they think it will hurt their speed? I see people saying that Marquez will not be as fast at 144 or whatever ****in goofy weight they are having the fight at. I don't disagree with that statement but if he really thinks it will hurt him, why not just weigh in at 135-140 then? Same with Hatton when he fought Floyd. If he was so much better at 140, why did he not come in at 140 for the weigh in? Fuck the 7 pounds.

If the added weight will not help you, why bother gaining it if you honestly think you would fight better 5-10 pounds lighter? Is there a rule against this that I have overlooked?

it doesn't really matter, he isn't going to win