What's MAYWEATHER going to say when he fails to SELL OUT the ARENA

[2501]

IF Jesus had to sit next to Mark Wahlberg, and B-Hop was sitting infront of Jesus would Mark Wahlberg trade seats?

Jesus would make him feel the vibration.

[The Gambler1981]

Jesus would make him feel the vibration.

Would Jesus man up and tell B-Hop to sit down?

[Bullet Bill]

I want to know what is this guy standards for a successful fight since he thinks 10,000+ isnt successful

Thus, none of these fights were draws since they didnt break 10,000+ or 11,000+

1. FELIX TRINIDAD vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA
   Mandalay Bay, Top Rank, Don King, PPV
   
2. OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. FERNANDO VARGAS
   Mandalay Bay, Top Rank, Main Events, PPV
   
3. LENNOX LEWIS vs. HASIM RAHMAN
   Mandalay Bay, Don King, Main Events, Lion, PPV
   
4. FELIX TRINIDAD vs. FERNANDO VARGAS
   Mandalay Bay, Don King, Main Events, PPV
   
5. FELIX TRINIDAD vs. DAVID REID
   Caesars Palace, Don King, America Presents, PPV
   
6. LENNOX LEWIS vs. DAVID TUA
   Mandalay Bay, Main Events, America Presents, Panix, PPV
   
7. MIKE TYSON vs. FRANCOIS BOTHA
   MGM, America Presents, PPV
   
8. EVANDER HOLYFIELD vs. JAMES DOUGLAS
   Mirage, Mirage, PPV
   
9. EVANDER HOLYFIELD vs. RID**** BOWE II
   Caesars Palace, Spencer Promotions, Main Events, PPV

Because None of these Broke 10,000+ and 11,000+ in attendance...


So what do you think is the amount of people who have to attend for you to consider it an successful fight?

[Bullet Bill]

the mexicans might not come out because jmm is perceived as a huge underdog and a tune up.

also jmm had to fight diaz in houston; he doesn't get that much love from mexicans... they prefered margarito over jmm before mosley/margo.

if the mexican came for margarito they are coming for jmm

[Mr. Chago]

Fighting JMM at 144 doesn't do **** for Mayweather to bargain for 60/40. Manny should be the one asking for 60/40 or Mayweather can go back to retirement where he belongs instead of ducking top 147 pounders.

You mean PBF calling twice on SSM, and SSM ducking PBF?? get your facts right

[Eaner0919]

the mexicans might not come out because jmm is perceived as a huge underdog and a tune up.

also jmm had to fight diaz in houston; he doesn't get that much love from mexicans... they prefered margarito over jmm before mosley/margo.

actually thats a pretty huge misconception. Yes while JMM isn't the draw Barrera and Morales were in their heyday his recent fights with Pacquiao and Diaz have made him more acceptable to the Mexican fanbase

also while the crowd was a definite Diaz crowd there was a huge roar of approval for JMM as well.

he is becoming a draw and one that Mexican fans are starting to want to see

[Pullcounter]

if the mexican came for margarito they are coming for jmm

i dunno, for some reason they don't like jmm unless he's fighting pac

[Pullcounter]

actually thats a pretty huge misconception. Yes while JMM isn't the draw Barrera and Morales were in their heyday his recent fights with Pacquiao and Diaz have made him more acceptable to the Mexican fanbase

also while the crowd was a definite Diaz crowd there was a huge roar of approval for JMM as well.

he is becoming a draw and one that Mexican fans are starting to want to see

they only like him when he's fighting pac.

margo sold out the staples center easy... I don't ever see jmm getting that kinda reception, which boggles my mind. jmm is clearly the better fighter.

[gopi11]

Do you know how Ignorant you sound....?

Do you know How great fights didnt reach 16,000+ in Las Vegas?
8 out of the top 35 fights in vegas history have reach over 16,000 people in attendance...!!!

Pacquiaqo vs. Oscat didnt reach 16,000

MAIN EVENT

1. VENUE/PROMOTER/TV DATE PAID ATTENDANCE
2. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA
   MGM, Golden Boy, Don Chargin, PPV 05/05/07 17,078
3. LENNOX LEWIS vs. EVANDER HOLYFIELD II
   Thomas and Mack, Don King, PPV 11/13/99 17,078
4. EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA
   MGM, Golden Boy, Top Rank, PPV 12/06/08 14,468
5. EVANDER HOLYFIELD vs. MIKE TYSON II
   MGM, Don King, PPV 06/28/97 16,279
6. EVANDER HOLYFIELD vs. MIKE TYSON I
   MGM, Don King, PPV 11/09/96 16,103
7. MIKE TYSON vs. PETER MC NEELEY
   MGM, Don King, PPV 08/19/95 16,113
8. FELIX TRINIDAD vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA
   Mandalay Bay, Top Rank, Don King, PPV 09/18/99 11,184
9. BERNARD HOPKINS vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA MGM, Top Rank, Golden Boy, PPV 09/18/04 15,672
10. JOE CALZAGHE vs. BERNARD HOPKINS
    Thomas & Mack, Golden Boy, Don Chargin, HBO 04/19/08 14,345
11. MIKE TYSON vs. FRANK BRUNO II
    MGM, Don King, PPV 03/16/96 16,143
12. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. RICKY HATTON
    MGM, Golden Boy, PPV 12/08/07 15,488
13. SHANE MOSLEY vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA
    MGM, Top Rank, PPV 09/13/03 16,074
14. OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. FERNANDO VARGAS
    Mandalay Bay, Top Rank, Main Events, PPV 09/14/02 10,984
15. OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. RICARDO MAYORGA
    MGM, Golden Boy, Don King, Don Chargin, PPV 05/06/06 12,276
16. OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. JULIO C. CHAVEZ I
    Caesars Palace, Top Rank, Don King, Close Circuit 06/07/96 14,738
17. LENNOX LEWIS vs. HASIM RAHMAN
    Mandalay Bay, Don King, Main Events, Lion, PPV 11/17/01 9,830
18. FELIX TRINIDAD vs. FERNANDO VARGAS
    Mandalay Bay, Don King, Main Events, PPV 12/02/00 9,309
19. FELIX TRINIDAD vs. DAVID REID
    Caesars Palace, Don King, America Presents, PPV 03/03/00 9,584
20. MIKE TYSON vs. FRANCOIS BOTHA
    MGM, America Presents, PPV 01/16/99 10,221
21. EVANDER HOLYFIELD vs. JAMES DOUGLAS
    Mirage, Mirage, PPV 10/25/90 10,117
22. ROY JONES JR vs. JOHN RUIZ
    Mirage, Mirage, PPV 03/01/03 11,490
23. LENNOX LEWIS vs. DAVID TUA
    Mandalay Bay,PPV 11/11/00 10,809
24. RAY LEONARD vs. THOMAS HEARNS II
    Caesars Palace, Top Rank, PPV 06/12/89 12,064
25. RAY LEONARD vs. ROBERTO DURAN
    Mirage, Top Rank, Victory Promotions, PPV 12/07/89 11,904
26. RONALD "WINKY" WRIGHT vs. FELIX TRINIDAD
    MGM, Don King, Gary Shaw, Guilty, PPV 05/14/05 13,590
27. MIKE TYSON vs. BRUCE SELDON
    MGM, Don King, PPV 09/07/96 9,511
28. LARRY HOLMES vs. GERRY COONEY
    Caesars Palace, Don King, Tiffany, Close Circuit 06/11/82 29,214
    
29. RAY LEONARD vs. MARVIN HAGLER
    Caesars Palace, Close Circuit 04/06/87 12,379
30. MIKE TYSON vs. DONOVAN RUDDOCK II
    Mirage, Don King, 3M Productions, PPV 06/28/91 13,047
31. EVANDER HOLYFIELD vs. RID**** BOWE II
    Caesars Palace, PPV 11/06/93 10,923
32. LARRY HOLMES vs. MUHAMMAD ALI
    Caesars Palace, Don King, NBC 10/02/80 24,570
33. EVANDER HOLYFIELD vs. MICHAEL MOORER
    Thomas & Mack, PPV 11/08/97 9,395
34. MIKE TYSON vs. DONOVAN RUDDOCK I
    Mirage,Don King, 3M Productions, PPV 03/18/91 12,563
35. OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. PERNEL WHITAKER
    Thomas & Mack, Caesars Palace, Top Rank, PPV 04/12/97 11,764
36. OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. JULIO C CHAVEZ II
    Thomas & Mack, Caesars Palace, Top Rank, PPV 09/18/98 13,384

http://boxing.nv.gov/New_Gates.htm

By your standards SRL vs. Hagler was not a big fight
or Majority of oscar fights were not big fights...

You conveniently forgot to mention the Pacquiao/Morales III which did 18,276, according to HBO --> http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/200...ouncement.html

[jrv1932]

The fight will sell out. Not as quickly as others but it will. I don't beleive it will do the PPV numbers that Pac-Hatton does but it will outdo Pac-Marquez and therefore giving Floyd PPV edge versus three common opponents, although still not sure what official numbers are for Pac-Hatton. Thats why he can demand more and nothing is wrong with that. Did Floyd, Manny, Shane, or Bernard receive more money against Oscar because they were considered better? No, because thats not the way it works, especially here when Floyd in my opinion is still the better fighter. Everyone is saying Manny is the bigger draw but wheres the proof? Floyd has done bigger numbers.