Who has the better defnse? Hopkins or Mayweather Jr.

**gingeralbino** · 05-11-2009, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by STILL_DETOX

hopkins hasnt been hit as flush as mayweather has...wat are ur thoughts

too close to call, both absolute masters.

I was wandering about Hopkins' chin earlier today, I cant remember him ever been hit flush. (Havent seen the RJJ fight so I dunno if he managed it). Can anyone tell me, or even better provide a clip, of Hopkins taking anything more than a jab in the face? I wanna see what his reaction was

Edit- by the time fights start in the UK I've normally had a "few" beers so forgive me if my memory aint uo to much!

**Chr0nic** · 05-11-2009, 02:45 PM

if hugging your opponent so he cant throw is defense then hopkins

**STILL_DETOX** · 05-11-2009, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by gingeralbino

too close to call, both absolute masters.

I was wandering about Hopkins' chin earlier today, I cant remember him ever been hit flush. (Havent seen the RJJ fight so I dunno if he managed it). Can anyone tell me, or even better provide a clip, of Hopkins taking anything more than a jab in the face? I wanna see what his reaction was

Edit- by the time fights start in the UK I've normally had a "few" beers so forgive me if my memory aint uo to much!

yea go watch Ray Allen vs Bernard Hopkins III round 8.

and also calzaghe landed a clean one

**gingeralbino** · 05-11-2009, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Swirls[BMITP]

if hugging your opponent so he cant throw is defense then hopkins

imo defence is not getting hit so yes it is!

**gingeralbino** · 05-11-2009, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by STILL_DETOX

yea go watch Ray Allen vs Bernard Hopkins III round 8.

and also calzaghe landed a clean one

I remember Calzaghe but I didnt count him! I wanted to see his chin being tested. I'll have a look for that other one cheers.

**The Gambler1981** · 05-11-2009, 02:52 PM

It is an interesting question, they do things different but to me they do these thigns for the same reasons (to breakdown an opponents style).

They are both top level guys (especially for crafty righties), I would say Floyd is more slick but is not really overall any better then B-Hop.

**mathed** · 05-11-2009, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by STILL_DETOX

hopkins hasnt been hit as flush as mayweather has...wat are ur thoughts

I think that Floyd and Hopkins have 2 different strategies. They both generally get physical and borderline on illegal tactics consistently when defending up close (BHOP with rabbit punches and holding, while Floyd uses his elbows to push guys off)

Other than that, Floyd uses quick reflexes and shoulder rolls to counter. Bhop uses quick ducking punches and lateral movements to keep the other guy from setting. Floyd lets the guy set and counters while Bhop uses offense as defense by punching you before you get off any of your punches.

Very close call for me, I'd say BHOP if I had to pick. He has had to defend against bigger harder punching competition and has never been down.

**Kevin Jesus** · 05-11-2009, 02:58 PM

They're very close. Taylor caught Hopkins a whole bunch of times in both fights, Corley and Judah caught Mayweather good too. They're on par.

**Pugilistic�** · 05-11-2009, 03:01 PM

I would say defensively they are pretty even.

Who has the better defnse? Hopkins or Mayweather Jr.