Minimum Requierment to be in the P4P LIST!

[Left Hook Tua]

I agree but people have swayed from that reasoning, if that was the case Ivan Calderon should be top 5, if it was based on skill then IMO Pacquaio wouldnt be top ten 2006-2007 when he was beating guys off of just a 1-2.

wrong.

skills are just not boxing technique.

the young pacquiao might have been limited but his natural skills such as his speed and punching power have to be taken into account.

p4p list was a way of ranking fighters head to head on a level playing field.

obviously a 140 lb. pacquiao could never beat a 250 lb. vitali klitschko but if pacquiao and vitali were the same size most people would pick pacquiao to win hence why pacquiao would be ranked higher than vitali p4p.

[mellow_mood]

Well even though heavyweights arent technically moving up and down in weight classes, it doesnt mean they arent fighting guys bigger then them or smaller then them. Heavyweight is a broad range. Over 200...meaning you could be 205 pounds and fighting a guy who's 260. Thats p4p to me.

therefore...

the klisk should be on the list

[Roger Mellie]

I know that every single p4p list that we may find around the internet or any boxing board/forum etc etc is going to be different, cos its only represents the oppionion of somebody else.


BUT...

Shouldnt that list have at least a minimum requirement? for me to be in the p4p list.. u need at least to be a 2 division champion. I know theres a lot "catch weight" fights out there that are as significant or bigger than any other fight... but i think it would be nice.. if at least we could have some ..

basic standard measure to figure out the most "correct" list.

With that being said..

I dont think that any fighter who only have one belt @ one division should be consider to be in the p4p list.


Do you agree?

No,thats a ridiculous notion,its a bit like saying,"Sorry Mr.Hagler,but because you lamely decided to stay at MW for your entire career,you arent worthy of a P4P rating".

This is some WWE bull**** and it needs to stop now.

[mellow_mood]

No,thats a ridiculous notion,its a bit like saying,"Sorry Mr.Hagler,but because you lamely decided to stay at MW for your entire career,you arent worthy of a P4P rating".

This is some WWE bull**** and it needs to stop now.

perfect then!!!!!!

this is not wome wwe bull****.. cos u know what...

i dont give a damn about wrestling...

p4p list.. are just oppinions... and everybody have an oppinion so everybody is gonna be right... no matter how u look it.!!


p4p list are just oppinions.. based on facts... but still are oppinion cos we will never have a LEGIT P4P LIST as long as ppl think different


but...

thanks for sharing

[Bhopreign]

wrong.

skills are just not boxing technique.

the young pacquiao might have been limited but his natural skills such as his speed and punching power have to be taken into account.

p4p list was a way of ranking fighters head to head on a level playing field.

obviously a 140 lb. pacquiao could never beat a 250 lb. vitali klitschko but if pacquiao and vitali were the same size most people would pick pacquiao to win hence why pacquiao would be ranked higher than vitali p4p.

I always think that notion is flawed too, because a heavyweight, because of his size cant do and move like the smaller guys. When I heard Ali make a reference to SRR, he said basically the same thing, but if SRR was a heavyweight he wouldnt be fighting like he did at 160, he wouldnt be able to move like that.

[mellow_mood]

to the guys who have voted...

NO...


could you please mention the guys who are in the current p4p list.. who have win a belt @ only one division....

so far.. i got
caballero

who else?

[mellow_mood]

so.. paul williams.. is not in the list...

[Left Hook Tua]

I always think that notion is flawed too, because a heavyweight, because of his size cant do and move like the smaller guys. When I heard Ali make a reference to SRR, he said basically the same thing, but if SRR was a heavyweight he wouldnt be fighting like he did at 160, he wouldnt be able to move like that.

whether flawed or not. that's what was the intent of the p4p list.

if all fighters were the same size how would you rate them.

it's the simplest and most efficient way really.

[Roger Mellie]

perfect then!!!!!!

this is not wome wwe bull****.. cos u know what...

i dont give a damn about wrestling...

p4p list.. are just oppinions... and everybody have an oppinion so everybody is gonna be right... no matter how u look it.!!


p4p list are just oppinions.. based on facts... but still are oppinion cos we will never have a LEGIT P4P LIST as long as ppl think different


but...

thanks for sharing

Anybody that knows about boxing knows exactly how P4P stacks up.Winning belts in different divisions is completely irrelevant,its not about that,its about a hypothetical argument as to how one fighter at a given weight would fare against another fighter of a different weight assuming they were on a level playing field,and trying to change this notion by putting a minimum requirement like you have suggested is frankly ridiculous.

[Left Hook Tua]

to the guys who have voted...

NO...


could you please mention the guys who are in the current p4p list.. who have win a belt @ only one division....

so far.. i got
caballero

who else?

so you telling me hopkins didn't deserve to be on the p4p list 'til he won a trinket at 175?

you telling me israel vazquez doesn't deserve to be on the list?