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  • Ishy Aytan
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    #11
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    Being that these two fighters legacy's are very close... the fact that Floyd IS undefeated... DOES mean a lot..

    Yep this also plays a part, in determining who was a greater fighter out the two.

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    • TheBoychine
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      #12
      Originally posted by talip bin osman
      bcoz im a little confused about some guys saying the winner of their hypothetical fight would decide whos greater....
      where would you rank pacquiao if he hopped in a time machine and went back to defeat a prime tyson?

      riddle me that.

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      • Ishy Aytan
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        #13
        Originally posted by talip bin osman
        so u think the "0" of PBF would carry more weight than any criteria in any future all-time discussions between him & MP?


        It wouldnt carry more weight, but would help when discussing who was greater.

        If Pac beats Floyd, then theres no question, Pacquiao should be considered the greater fighter and vice versa.

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        • larry x
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          #14
          these 2 resumes arnt far apart..a fight will settle everything

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          • talip bin osman
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            #15
            Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
            It wouldnt carry more weight, but would help when discussing who was greater.

            If Pac beats Floyd, then theres no question, Pacquiao should be considered the greater fighter and vice versa.
            i appreciate the input boss... but calzaghe like PBF was undefeated and beat both hopkins & jones... u think calzaghe is greater than both?

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            • DA1CATAS
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              #16
              Originally posted by talip bin osman
              so u think the "0" of PBF would carry more weight than any criteria in any future all-time discussions between him & MP?
              If Floyd beats manny... YEs.... If he never beats manny then no... Understand why I think that?

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              • DA1CATAS
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                #17
                Originally posted by talip bin osman
                i appreciate the input boss... but calzaghe like PBF was undefeated and beat both hopkins & jones... u think calzaghe is greater than both?
                You have to look at the way Calzaghe won... all those slap punches... and the way the fight went on.. and how everyone says Roy was old and how people still think hopkins beat calzaghe..

                That is definitely not the same as floyd and pac fighting now.. When they are both near or completely in their primes..

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
                  Yep, i agree with this.

                  But if Floyd beats Pac and goes on to beat a top WW, then Floyd should be recognised as a better fighter than Pac.

                  If Pac wins a belt at 147, i'd be surprised. I just cant see it happening.
                  floyd doesn't even need to beat pac.

                  if he beats shane it'd probably be enough to edge pac's resume as it is right now.

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                  • talip bin osman
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DA1CATAS
                    You have to look at the way Calzaghe won... all those slap punches... and the way the fight went on.. and how everyone says Roy was old and how people still think hopkins beat calzaghe..

                    That is definitely not the same as floyd and pac fighting now.. When they are both near or completely in their primes..
                    ok lets leave calzaghe 4 the time being... lets just hav hagler/hearns over duran for example...

                    any credible list that hav these two great fighters ranking higher than duran?

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                    • JOM'S
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                      #20
                      @talip bin osman. IMHO during the time of Duran, hagler, hearns & SRL it was never mentioned that he was the greatest among the FAB Four and i think or just my opinion even considered as the least talented, he only won once (yeah thats a big one, only fighter to beat the PRIME Leonard) and lost to the other three ....

                      but after their careers was over and in hindsight, their accomplishments were weighed and it was hard to say that hagler, hearns or even SRL did better than roberto...

                      head to head he may not be better than the other three but his accomplishment outweights theirs...

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