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  • Iceta
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    #101
    Originally posted by QUISQUEYA

    How many of those guys moved up out of their weight class to fight Bernard?

    Thanks!
    Man, that **** gets too much play when people discuss B-Hop's resume. I respect Pacquiao a lot but to me there's nothin impressive about beatin a dead weight-drained De La Hoya at 147 where he hadn't fought in years. People try to use the size difference to try to discredit Bernard's win over Kelly. People could make the argument that Hopkins was weight drained in the Pavlik fight given that he'd just fought Calzaghe at 175 and he had to meet Pavlik at 170. Pavlik moved up like Pac did with Fishnets and he still couldn't get the job done.

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    • FeFist
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      #102
      People are starting to give too much of a **** about what the ring says.

      When speaking about the ''best'', I personally think the title goes to Floyd. I really think he has much equals in terms of boxing abilities.

      Pacquiao has a questionable win over Marquez. Wins over De La Hoya and Hatton before these wins no one would consider him above Floyd.

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      • Gutz
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        #103
        I personally dont see a problem with this..

        Pac fought the best.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #104
          pac fought the best while moving up in weight. he also beat the same guys that pbf beat but in a worse way.

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            #105
            They've got to fight before 2009 is out, so they can call it fighter of the decade

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              #106
              Originally posted by RepublicaEnemy1
              yeah manny pacquiao is the best!! move aside floyd let the big boys handle the p4p crown.....

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                #107
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                pac fought the best while moving up in weight. he also beat the same guys that pbf beat but in a worse way.
                Pac is one of my favorite fighters but you shouldn't get that much credit for beating guys that everybody knows is beatable. I'm not sayin you have to totally **** on Pac's wins over DLH and Hatton but why don't people give credit to Hopkins for beatin some guys that were at the absolute top of their game. Examples are Trininad, Pavlik, and even Tarver. A lot of people thought that Hopkins was gonna get destroyed by those guys. Look at what Glen Johnson has done after Hopkins stopped him. That win is underrated as hell in my book. Some of the guys that B-Hop fought in the nineties shouldn't apply to this thread since we are talkin about this generation I guess. But Pac was favored to beat Hatton, Barrera the second time, Marquez in their second fight, Morales in the third fight. The only big-named opponent that people thought was gonna beat Pac was DLH and that victory is awfully marginalized now that we see how far DLH had fallen. Maybe Ring Magazine really is trying to seem unbiased towards Golden Boy by rating Pac as the best of this generation. But maybe not since he destroyed their boss and and they are trying to preserve his image.

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                • obie
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Chups
                  A weekly boxing list compiled by Michael Rosenthal. This week: Best fighter pound-for-pound in each of the past 10 decades.

                  1910s: Sam Langford -- Small man beat the best big men of his day. Runner up: Jimmy Wilde.
                  1920s: Benny Leonard -- Some still say he’s the greatest lightweight ever. Runner up: Harry Greb.
                  1930s: Henry Armstrong -- Held titles in three weight classes simultaneously. Runner up: Tony Canzoneri.
                  1940s: Ray Robinson – Untouchable as a welterweight. Runner up: Willie Pep
                  1950s: Ray Robinson – Also one of the greatest middleweights ever. Runner up: Archie Moore.
                  1960s: Muhammad Ali – The Greatest really was the greatest at this time. Runner up: Carlos Ortiz.
                  1970s: Roberto Duran – Virtually untouchable as a lightweight. Runner up: Carlos Monzon.
                  1980s: Ray Leonard: His victories over Duran, Hearns and Hagler were epic. Runner up: Julio Cesar Chavez.
                  1990s: Roy Jones Jr. – At his best, he inspired awe. Runner up: Pernell Whitaker.
                  2000s: Manny Pacquiao – Sorry Floyd but you need to fight the best to be the best. Runner up: Floyd Mayweather.

                  Michael Rosenthal can be reached at RingTVeditor@yahoo.com

                  Doug Fischer contributed to this report

                  With a few days left to end the decade, there is no way Floyd can be fighter of the decade.

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