Sumthing strange about the PAC/MARQUEZ 2 fight.

[ThunderWolf]

Did anybody notice in this fight that Pacquiao didnt really seem like himself, didnt seem like he had that much energy or sumthing, usually he fights like sumbody just ripped him off, but in that fight he just didnt seem to have the fire & fury, anyone else notice that or am I trippin??, sumthin definetly wasnt right there, sumthing was missing.

He was about to fight David Diaz because he can`t fight at 130 anymore, when Marquez called him out of his cave, questioned his kingship. He was actually fighting weight-drained, yet was lucky to win. He was pale. (Roach said before the fight that Pac was over-trained and majority of his training was for weight reduction, little sparring)

[FasTHarD]

Did anybody notice in this fight that Pacquiao didnt really seem like himself, didnt seem like he had that much energy or sumthing, usually he fights like sumbody just ripped him off, but in that fight he just didnt seem to have the fire & fury, anyone else notice that or am I trippin??, sumthin definetly wasnt right there, sumthing was missing.

He was weight drained in that fight.

[noypi2]

[QUOTE=The Dapeedreean;5264333]

i found a link
After having great difficulty making 130 lbs against Marco Antonio Barrera last October, Manny Pacquiao’s weight, far ahead of his March 15 rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez, might just turn out to be a weighty issue.

Pacquiao did make the weight, and beat Barrera in 12 rounds. But shortly after, even Pacquiao said that should be his last fight at 130 lbs. — until the doors opened for a rematch with Marquez.

“Yes, he can,” assured one Pacquiao’s many advisers, Wakee Salud, who added that making the weight for what could be the Pinoy boxer’s last fight as a super-featherweight shouldn’t be a problem.

Still, Pacquiao is bent on moving up in weight, and according to his promoter, Bob Arum, up next for the 29-year-old brawler is WBC lightweight (135 lbs) champion David Diaz in June or July or even Ricky Hatton at 140 lbs in November.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=39612

so, pac was already having a little problem making 130 since his 2nd fight against barrera[/QUOTE]

Excuse. I wonder what his excuse was for the first fight when he could barely muster a draw that he didnt deserve?

Your countrymen was the one chantting Si se puede! the whole time and Pac barely muster a draw? You should thank the judge who made a mistake scoring a 3 kd rnd 10-7. Excuse.. Excuse my ass!

[cyutetrick]

suprising how pac man fans jump on that fight and use the weight as an excuse, how bout you pac man fans say the same about oscar de la hoya, cuz you wont, styles make fights man, marquez just knew how to fight pacquiao, he did the same twice man, dont use that weight drained bull **** excuse, i bet pacman would tell you to not make excuses for him, why? cuz there shouldnt be two men going to fight, set weight, equal chance ok

[drinkxerox]

suprising how pac man fans jump on that fight and use the weight as an excuse, how bout you pac man fans say the same about oscar de la hoya, cuz you wont,

we dont have to dummy cause everyone else does

1 thread talking about manny being drained vs. 90 threads about oscar being drained

[Zn1]

the first pac - marquez fight pac was outboxed but on the scorecards he should of won

maybe others peoples scorecards were different but the judges shud of scored it a win.

not one of the knockdowns in rd one was a slip so one judge should of scored it 10-6 like the others did.

2nd fight was a back and forth war.
everyone seems to forget marquez was floored yet again, that marquez ate alot of leather and that it was a rly close, tough fight.

i can see how people scored it one way and the other.

what i would like to know is, are there any pac fans that scored the win for marquez and any marquez fans that scored the win for pac.
cause it looks like fans picked there guy everytime

[PapaMo]

Two reasons...

1. Marquez's style is just bad match up for him. If not for pac's athleticism he would have been KOed.

2. Weight Drained
- It was highly documented in the local news in the philippines that pac was having a very hard time making weight. He was still jogging under the sun until the last day before the weigh in. He was already having a hard time during the barrera fight that's why they wanted him to go up to 135 in his next fight but since he accepted the fight with JMM he was force to stay at 130 for the belt.

pac's was dry as hell during the weight in... check out his face.

[kocface]

i hate how marquez and marquez fans always say pacquiao ducked him for the first rematch n tha 2nd rematch, when pacquiao asked for a rematch asap in 2004 and marquez said no and fought chris john instead and LOST and pacquiao and freddie roach sed in videos on BOXINGSCENE.COM and in 24/7 that theyll fight marquez again a 3rd time at 140, but marquez keeps saying pacquiaos ducking him and marquez fans believe it lol. just thought i'd say that, there is not one time pacquiao or roach sed NO to the 2nd or 3rd fight, but Marquez sed NO to a rematch in 2004/05 and sed because of money, blah , blah, blah, etc.... guzman,valero,mosley,cotto,soto,diaz, etc.. all want to fight pac, pac can only fight ONE at a time, but people will always say hes duckin sumone lol, marquez should avenge his lost to chris john and get off pacquiaos **** and i thought barrera got robbed against marquez imo...

[Zn1]

chris john pwned him

lol

[cyutetrick]

marquez pacquiao 2 coulda gone either way man, but it shoulda been a split and it was, i just think marquez won, but as far as pacman fans saying manny was weight drained, im sure that manny would say dude dont start with excuses for me. same thing goes to oscar and thats the point i was trying to make when i went with that, no excuses dude just knew how to beat you, any boxer at the top level could probably beat any boxer its just how you prepare yourself and who wants it more, i hate roach but he prepares manny well and they have a good bond so manny executes everything roach says, hes a good student man same thing with marquez and bereinsten or however u spell his name but dont make excuses for splits ds or loses man